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The Second Studio is a design and architecture podcast by architects David Lee & Marina Bourderonnet.

The Second Studio show features interviews with creative professionals; guides for designers, architects, and clients; design reviews; and casual conversations about everyday life. Honesty and humor are used to cover challenging subjects in long-form discussions. It is hosted by FAME Architecture and Design Founders David Bruce Lee and Marina Bourderonnet. The Second Studio is available for free o

n iTunes, YouTube, Spotify, and all other Podcast directories. EPISODE CATEGORIES

• GUEST INTERVIEWS: Interviews with industry leaders.
• PROJECT COMPANION: Guides for clients and architecture enthusiasts.
• FELLOW DESIGNER: Tips and strategies for designers and architects.
• AFTER HOURS: Casual conversations after office hours about life and design.
• DESIGN REVIEW: Reviews of buildings, spaces, and other creative projects.

03/12/2024

#385 - This week David and Marina have a casual conversation about the the architecture of Las Vegas, facsimiles, branded architecture, fantasy architecture, the International Builders’ Show in Las Vegas, and the challenges of working with vendors. ———————————————————————————
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03/11/2024

Waste not, want not. Quote by Marina Bourderonnet What do you think? Let us know in the comments 👇👇👇

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03/05/2024

#384 - This week David and Marina of are joined by Jason Somers, Founder of Discovolante Development President and Founder of to discuss the story behind the Californication house and its features; process of developing houses; working with architects; the Los Angeles architecture and development world; finding the right clients for projects; breaking down documentation and contractor fees; and more. ———————————————————————————
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03/04/2024

Guest work! Very cool properties by Tami Pardee. founder of Check out episode #378 to watch/hear our interview with Tami Pardee.

1 - Palms Marmol Radziner
2 - Hollywood Bowl House David Hertz
3 - Brooks Love House Gibb Architect Rojas Mural
4 - Channel Marmol Radziner
5 - Crestmoore
6 - Lawler Mid-Century
7 - Maytor Marmol Radziner Restoration
8 - Motor Culver City Sustainable
9 - Washington Way
10 - Ocean Front Walk Ted Tokio Tanaka
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02/27/2024

#383: This week David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design discuss architecture program. The two cover what program in architecture means, why it is important, how it is developed and implemented, and examples of leveraging program for creative design. Enjoy!
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02/26/2024

Architecture is a broad and beautiful profession. Quote by Dorte Mandrup, Founder of What do you think? Let us know in the comments 👇👇👇

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02/20/2024

#382 - This week David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design are joined by Roderick Bates, Director of Corporate Development at Chaos Group to discuss his background working in the architecture industry; different use cases for visualization software; A.I., and upcoming features; “The Future of Architectural Visualization” report; and more.
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02/19/2024

Guest work! Not your typical homes by a developer. Work by Check out episode #372 to watch/hear our interview with Simon James, founding partner of Wylan James Development.

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02/13/2024

#381 - This week David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design are joined by Aidan Anderson , Founder and Director of The Local Project to discuss how The Local Project started, growing the company, video and print publications, architecture in the media, Aidan’s background, and more.———————————————————————————
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02/12/2024

The good, the bad, and the ugly will all happen at some point in any project. Quote of the week by David Bruce Lee What do you think? Let us know in the comments 👇👇👇

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02/06/2024

#380!!! This week David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design discuss whether or not architects are optimists. Many claim to be, but are they? The two cover in what ways architects are optimists, when architects are pessimists, how to be an optimist and how it impacts one’s work, being a realist, and more.———————————————————————————
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02/05/2024

Guest work! Vibrant and thoughtful work by Check out episode #369 to watch/hear our interview with Jai Kumaran, founding partner of West of West.

1 - Office for Media Production
2 - Banks Journal. Photo by Scott Snyder
3 - Beach Hotel
4 - GLCO
5 - GLCO NY. Photo by Brian Ferry
6 - Antica Terra
7 - Desert Hotel
8 - Table in the Trees
9 - Office for Media Production
10 - Pavillion
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01/30/2024

#379 - This week David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design discuss designing a home as a narrative. The two cover why they work this way, the parallels between film scenes and sets and architectural spaces, sequences and processions, creating key moments in a home, establishing coherency, dynamism, and emotion.———————————————————————————
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01/29/2024

In episode #326 Grant Kirkpatrick , Founder of talks about how his office leverages technology and why it's not just about their office. "Technology is one of the main ingredients of the firm's operation… There is the maintenance, upgrades, constant battle of keeping technology clean and non-compromised, and all of that, but there's also the advancement, there is looking for what's out there and what's going on in the profession.

How can we contribute to what's going on out there in the profession? That's really important."

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01/23/2024

#378 - This week David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design are joined by Tami Pardee, Founder and CEO of Pardee Properties to share her story about becoming a real estate agent, starting her own brokerage, selling and buying homes, common living patterns, her Life Change Warriors Program , and more.
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01/22/2024

GUEST WORK! The coolest Tahoe cabin Lighthus by William Liow, AIA. It's also available to rent :) Check out our After Hours chat about the house and the value of architecture in episode #371———————————————————————————
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01/20/2024

It is with great sadness that we announce David Brodie, Professor Emeritus, Cal Poly San Luis Obispo and UC Berkeley, passed away on November 30, 2023. David was a tremendous educator, mentor, friend, and community member. His obituary can be read at legacy.com (link in bio).David was a guest on our show a few years ago (episode #83) and it certainly was one for the books.

He was the most effective educator I have ever come across. His understanding of design and how to teach it was profound. When working with students, he knew what to say, what questions to ask, and most importantly when nothing should be said at all. He also had a wickedly clever sense of humor. David was a fervent member of the San Luis Obispo community and had a positive impact on many many people locally and far beyond. On a more personal note, he was a close family friend of ours. More about him will be shared in time. We, and many many others, will miss him dearly.

RIP, David Brodie.

01/16/2024

#377 - This week David and Marina have a casual chat about computer malfunctions, customer service, the myth of local professionals, and being introverted.———————————————————————————YouTube / iTunes / Spotify
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01/15/2024

Did you study architecture, but end up in a different profession? What did you end up doing instead?What do you think? Let us know in the comments 👇👇👇

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01/09/2024

#376!!! This week David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design are joined by architecture critic of The New York Times, Michael Kimmelman , to discuss his background; the role of a critic; New York City; the evolution of the profession; the housing crisis; social housing; the value of architecture; and more!

01/08/2024

GUEST WORK! Thoughtful and beautiful interiors of an Edwardian home by HSH Interiors. Check out episode #368 for our interview with Founder and Principal Designer Holly Hollenbeck :)———————————————————————————
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01/03/2024

Wise words by the one and only Denise Scott Brown. The good will triumph! Episode #347 “I think of my career of long low arcs. When Bob (Robert Venturi) and I were having so much trouble and Gordon Bunshaft made us lose one of our jobs… and now developers in London are making us lose the National Gallery. It’s going to be changed beyond belief. It makes you cry. But when we (Bob and I) were crying, I said look, “We have long low arcs in our career and we just have to be very patient.”

My first long low arc was Africa. I was scared of staying in Africa not only because I couldn’t afford to get into prison and then get executed, but also because there was a situation where my dad was a developer and there was a man who offered me a job […] And I realized that I’d better go somewhere where I was not known and I’d be much safer in finding my own way."

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01/02/2024

#375 - This week David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design share advice and tips for clients with a project that is small and/or has a tight budget. The two discuss the things to look out for when hiring an architect/designer, a contractor, and engineer; material and design constraints; client involvement; workflows; and more.
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12/27/2023

GUEST WORK! Very shweet branding, graphics, and UX/UI by Forge . Check out episode #366 with Ashwinn Krishnaswamy , Partner at Forge to learn about their process and Ashwinn's story. There are some incredible parallels between the different design professions :)———————————————————————————
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12/26/2023

#374 - Ending the year with a bang! This week David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design are joined by Robert Yuen, Co-founder and CEO of Monograph to discuss Monograph; the business of architecture; billing cycles; talking about money in the profession; his perspective on the industry; and more!———————————————————————————
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12/19/2023

#373! This week David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design discuss common mistakes students make when giving architecture presentations. The two cover graphics, documenting ideas, physical models, overselling, inviting collaboration, site analysis, receiving feedback, ending a presentation, and more.———————————————————————————
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12/18/2023

Quote of the week! You never know where the big idea comes from. Marina Bourderonnet What do you think? Let us know in the comments 👇👇👇

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12/12/2023

#372!!! This week David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design are joined by Simon James, Partner at Wylan James Development to discuss his background; interning at Smashbox; becoming a creative director; building their cosmetics line; leading a large team; transitioning into architecture, design and development; first projects; the importance of budget; reflecting on his career; and more.
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12/11/2023

Roadtrip photos! Check out episodes #363 and #367 to hear our thoughts on local architecture, the natural landscapes, and roadtripping through the southwest of the US. Have you visited the southwest and did you enjoy it?1 - Church of Holy Cross, Sedona AZ
2-3 - Taos Pueblo, NM
4 Barrio Libre - Tucson AZ
5 - Monument Valley, AZ
6 - Antelope Canyon
7 - Arcosanti, AZ
8 - Saguaro National Park, AZ
9 - Taliesin West, AZ
10 - James Turrell ASU Skyspace, AZ

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12/06/2023

#371!!! This week David and Marina of FAME Architecture & Design discuss 5 things clients should know before starting a new home or remodel project: 1. Start by starting 2. Determine why you are doing the project
3. Do not rely on luck for success
4. Be efficient without shortcutting the process
5. Communicate with your partner.

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Matthias Hollwich @hwkn_architecture speaks on how he helped co-found @architizer during the 2008 recession 🤯🤯🤯 Share your thoughts with us! 👇👇👇 From #286 - Matthias Hollwich, Founding Principal of HWKN ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

Everyone’s fallen victim to designer’s block at some point but one of the simplest solutions is to get out of your comfort zone and try to explore your ideas through a different medium 💡💡💡 With an abundance of tools out there, each with their own value to the design process, it’s important to ensure that the medium doesn’t dictate the design! Do you have any other tips? Let us know below 👇👇👇 From #214 - Deciphering the Architectural Design "Process", Tips for Designers ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

Jamie Bush @jamiebushco discusses why Interior Designers make more than Architects and offers some ideas that could help close the gap! 💰💰💰 Do you have any other tips? Let us know below 👇👇👇 From #284 - Jamie Bush, Interior Architect and Founder of Jamie Bush + CO ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

How to ACTUALLY learn from your design reviews 👀✍️💭 Do you have any other tips? Let us know below 👇👇👇 From #207 - How to Have an Great Design & Architecture ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

Toshiko Mori @toshiko.mori_ discusses the fragility of the profession and importance of studios in Architectural Education 🎓🎓🎓 What are your thoughts? Let us know below 👇👇👇 From #227 - Architect Toshiko Mori on her design process, New York, and more ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

The Client-Architect Relationship could be the difference between a decent and an amazing project! 🤝🤝🤝 What are your thoughts? Let us know below 👇👇👇 From #242 - Guide to Hiring an Architect & The Client-Architect Relationship ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

What Students DON'T Learn About Constraints and Clients in School   What are your thoughts? Let us know below 👇👇👇 From #253 - The Differences Between Architecture School and Architecture Practice ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

Stuart Graff from the @wrighttaliesin talks about the role cultural institutions play in supporting creative professions 🤝🤝🤝  What are your thoughts? Let us know below 👇👇👇 From #280 - Stuart Graff, President and CEO of the Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

Yet another major difference between School and Practice that students and graduates should be aware of!   What are your thoughts? Let us know below 👇👇👇 From #253 - The Differences Between Architecture School and Architecture Practice ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

@joefletcherphoto describes the complex relationship between Architecture and Architectural Photography 📸 From Episode #277 with Joe Fletcher, Architectural Photographer What are your thoughts? Let us know below 👇👇👇 ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

Who else drives slow in just to look at architecture? 🚗 🏡 😆 You’ll also be happy to know that David’s dad actually works in his office! How cool is that? 😊 Episode #276 with David Thompson Founder of @assembledge !!! ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

What are your thoughts on design build? 🔨📐🏠 Let us know in the comments! 👇👇👇 Clips from episode #242 Guide to Hiring an Architect ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

A longer clip from our interview with Michael Manfredi, Co-Founder of @weissmanfredi Michael discusses their design process and why they will ‘postpone solutions’ in the process. Very fascinating! What are your thoughts? Let us know below 👇👇👇 ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

Client and designer relationships can be tricky. Here’s one reason/scenario when it doesn’t work out. 🤭 Do you agree? 😮 ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

Not architecture. BUT fascinating takes on music ensemble leadership and rehearsals. How can these ideas apply to other creative professions? 🎶 🤔 Feat. William V Johnson, Professor Emeritus and Former Director of Bands at @calpoly @cpmustangband Personally, I love the idea of that rehearsals are based on what was accomplished in the previous rehearsal. Honestly, this level of organization and preparedness is missing in many architecture offices. ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎 ——————————————————————————— This episode is supported by @monographhq @brizofaucet @graphisoft @mieleusa @naad.me

Should schools focused more on theory or practice? 🤔 OR do you disagree with their division to begin with? 🤯 Let us know what you think in the comments! 👇👇👇 From episode #253 Differences between architecture practice and school ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎

Clip from episode #256 with @0super Jimenez Lai! Check it out on YouTube and wherever u get podcasts 😎😎 @_bureauspectacular ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎

There are different reasons to hire an architect and different kinds of architects to look for! 👀 🏠 Check episode #242 for more 😎 ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎

How to hire the right architect! There are roughly two different reasons for hiring an architect and two different types of architects to look for! Clips from episode #242 ——————————————————————————— YouTube / iTunes / Spotify ⚡️Link in Bio⚡️ www.secondstudiopod.com ——————————————————————————— Have a question? Text us at 213-222-6950! 😎

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The Midnight Charette is an explicit podcast about design and the everyday. It is hosted by Architects David Lee and Marina Bourderonnet and features renowned designers as guests.