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Sunset this evening nice photo but the rain came in just after it was taken.
05/10/2025

Sunset this evening nice photo but the rain came in just after it was taken.

Apology accepted, move on to better things - but I still maintain that defending free speech means facing the harm it ca...
02/10/2025

Apology accepted, move on to better things - but I still maintain that defending free speech means facing the harm it can spread.

Again repost the NZ Herald article wtitten well before this mayoral Charlie Kirk memorial debacle that articulates my take better than I could!

Defending free speech means facing the harm it can spread
Simon Wilson - award winning senior writer.
Sept 17, 2025

Why has the murder of the campus activist Charlie Kirk been framed as a “free speech” issue?
The political assassinations of John F. Kennedy in 1963, Malcolm X in 1965 and Martin Luther King jnr and Robert Kennedy in 1968 weren’t seen like that. They were attacks on the substance of what the murdered leaders stood for. Civil rights, especially.
Free speech was just a part of it. Any act of political violence like the murder of Kirk is deplorable.
But America’s democracy is sick now, one symptom of which is the way it protects a gun-violence culture that would be abhorrent in almost every other democracy on the planet.
It’s an awful irony that Kirk himself did not see the problem.
“I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights,” he said in April 2023, at an event organised by his group Turning Point USA.
“That is a prudent deal. It is rational.”
This is the irrational view of a person who thinks bad things happen only to other people.
Immediately after Kirk’s murder, “free speech” organisations leapt to define the issue.
But NBC has reported several people in America lost their jobs in media and elsewhere for exercising their free speech to criticise Kirk.
Jonathan Ayling of New Zealand’s Free Speech Union was in this paper the next day making his case, and more pieces arguing the same thing have followed.
Ayling wrote: “Kirk was polarising. No doubt. But to focus only on the substance of his positions is to miss the larger point. His assassination . . . is about whether we are still committed to the principle that disagreements are settled by words, not violence.”
It’s not the sort of thing that people said about Martin Luther King.
The substance of his positions was entirely the point, because those positions could be proudly advocated by anyone, did not need excusing as “polarising” and upset the established order.
Ayling continued: “The reality is clear: free speech is the safety valve of a free society. It lets grievances be aired, arguments tested and bad ideas exposed.
“If you shut it down, pressure builds, ultimately bursting in fatal ways.”
This is a standard defence of free speech and it is complete nonsense. The free speech exercised by Kirk wasn’t a safety valve.
I believe it stirred hatred, in just the same way as the free speech of every tyrant and malcontent with a megaphone has always done.
US President Donald Trump’s free speech helped encourage an insurrection against the American Government on January 6, 2021.
And yet free speech is precious. I believe that.
Not because of the fatuous reasoning that it’s a “safety valve”, but because the clash of ideas is a dynamic of humanity and progress.
And because if we wish to claim the right of free speech for ourselves, we must allow it for others too.
Something, as noted above, with which Kirk did not agree.
“Free speech does two vital things,” Ayling wrote.
“It helps us discover truth in unexpected places. And it reveals the fool, the dangerous and the deluded for what they are.”
Honestly, if that were true, wouldn’t Trump now be doing nothing but playing golf and harassing women?
“It’s better to learn this by listening to them speak than having to face their aggression,” wrote Ayling.
But hatred, when preached, breeds aggression.
This is a dark contradiction in democratic and humanist life and we should confront it, not pretend it doesn’t exist.
The movement to suppress hate speech and the demand for “safe spaces” are attempts to face up to this.
The issue is complex and sometimes the proposed solutions veer too much to one side or the other. But it doesn’t help to pretend that because free speech is precious, we should ignore the harm it can do.
Without a shred of irony, Ayling wrote: “It is not those who argue for free speech who make society unsafe. The real danger comes from those who treat ideas as threats to be extinguished.”
But to me, Kirk was an expert at both those things: making society unsafe and trying to extinguish ideas.
I believe he was a menace to democracy in America.
Here is some of what Kirk used his God-given free speech to say.
On his radio show and elsewhere he promoted the same “Great Replacement Theory” that motivated the Christchurch mosque murderer, Brenton Tarrant. On the same show he called Zohran Mamdani’s victory in the New York Democratic primary this year an outrage because “Muslims did 9/11”.
He believed in political violence. In 2022, when Paul Pelosi, the 82-yearold husband of then-US Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, had his skull broken during a home invasion by a man with a hammer, Kirk called for “some amazing patriot” to post bail for the suspect (Rolling Stone, October 2022).
Here is something he said about race in January last year: “If I see a black pilot, I’m going to be like, ‘boy, I hope he’s qualified’.”
Here is something he said about race and women. On his radio show he said black women “do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously”.
When Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce announced their engagement in August, Kirk said: “This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative. Engage in reality more . . . Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.”
Maybe lots of people think some of these things. None of us is without prejudice.
But when powerful people say these things they legitimise the harm they can do. Swift, presumably, can look after herself.
But what Kirk said about her invites his followers to treat the women in their lives as less than equal.
Why are we being asked to ignore this? In many ways, free speech has never been stronger.
Social media and the platforming of bigots in free speech’s name have seen to that.
It’s bad enough that the freespeech clarion turns bigots into martyrs. What’s worse, though, is that it distracts us from the things that really do threaten democracy, especially but not only in America.
This includes Trump, the mainstream political party that capitulated to him and the highly organised groups around him.
It also includes the social-media billionaires who have deliberately and possibly irreversibly poisoned our public discourse.
And it includes the corporates that are winning the battle not only to destroy climate science, but to enrich themselves by making the climate crisis worse.
Free speech is the best friend of all these enemies of democracy. It empowers them.
So, yes, let’s defend it. Free speech is important.
But let’s remember what everyone understood when Martin Luther King was killed: the real issue is what it’s used for.

https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/10/01/whanganui-mayor-regrets-speaking-at-charlie-kirk-vigil-after-backlash/"Defending free...
01/10/2025

https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/10/01/whanganui-mayor-regrets-speaking-at-charlie-kirk-vigil-after-backlash/

"Defending free speech means facing the harm it can spread"

This in the NZ Herald article posted well before this mayoral Charlie Kirk memorial debacle is worth a repost.

Defending free speech means facing the harm it can spread

Simon Wilson - award winning senior writer.
Sept 17, 2025

Why has the murder of the campus activist Charlie Kirk been framed as a “free speech” issue?
The political assassinations of John F. Kennedy in 1963, Malcolm X in 1965 and Martin Luther King jnr and Robert Kennedy in 1968 weren’t seen like that. They were attacks on the substance of what the murdered leaders stood for. Civil rights, especially.
Free speech was just a part of it. Any act of political violence like the murder of Kirk is deplorable.
But America’s democracy is sick now, one symptom of which is the way it protects a gun-violence culture that would be abhorrent in almost every other democracy on the planet.
It’s an awful irony that Kirk himself did not see the problem.
“I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights,” he said in April 2023, at an event organised by his group Turning Point USA.
“That is a prudent deal. It is rational.”
This is the irrational view of a person who thinks bad things happen only to other people.
Immediately after Kirk’s murder, “free speech” organisations leapt to define the issue.
But NBC has reported several people in America lost their jobs in media and elsewhere for exercising their free speech to criticise Kirk.
Jonathan Ayling of New Zealand’s Free Speech Union was in this paper the next day making his case, and more pieces arguing the same thing have followed.
Ayling wrote: “Kirk was polarising. No doubt. But to focus only on the substance of his positions is to miss the larger point. His assassination . . . is about whether we are still committed to the principle that disagreements are settled by words, not violence.”
It’s not the sort of thing that people said about Martin Luther King.
The substance of his positions was entirely the point, because those positions could be proudly advocated by anyone, did not need excusing as “polarising” and upset the established order.
Ayling continued: “The reality is clear: free speech is the safety valve of a free society. It lets grievances be aired, arguments tested and bad ideas exposed.
“If you shut it down, pressure builds, ultimately bursting in fatal ways.”
This is a standard defence of free speech and it is complete nonsense. The free speech exercised by Kirk wasn’t a safety valve.
I believe it stirred hatred, in just the same way as the free speech of every tyrant and malcontent with a megaphone has always done.
US President Donald Trump’s free speech helped encourage an insurrection against the American Government on January 6, 2021.
And yet free speech is precious. I believe that.
Not because of the fatuous reasoning that it’s a “safety valve”, but because the clash of ideas is a dynamic of humanity and progress.
And because if we wish to claim the right of free speech for ourselves, we must allow it for others too.
Something, as noted above, with which Kirk did not agree.
“Free speech does two vital things,” Ayling wrote.
“It helps us discover truth in unexpected places. And it reveals the fool, the dangerous and the deluded for what they are.”
Honestly, if that were true, wouldn’t Trump now be doing nothing but playing golf and harassing women?
“It’s better to learn this by listening to them speak than having to face their aggression,” wrote Ayling.
But hatred, when preached, breeds aggression.
This is a dark contradiction in democratic and humanist life and we should confront it, not pretend it doesn’t exist.
The movement to suppress hate speech and the demand for “safe spaces” are attempts to face up to this.
The issue is complex and sometimes the proposed solutions veer too much to one side or the other. But it doesn’t help to pretend that because free speech is precious, we should ignore the harm it can do.
Without a shred of irony, Ayling wrote: “It is not those who argue for free speech who make society unsafe. The real danger comes from those who treat ideas as threats to be extinguished.”
But to me, Kirk was an expert at both those things: making society unsafe and trying to extinguish ideas.
I believe he was a menace to democracy in America.
Here is some of what Kirk used his God-given free speech to say.
On his radio show and elsewhere he promoted the same “Great Replacement Theory” that motivated the Christchurch mosque murderer, Brenton Tarrant. On the same show he called Zohran Mamdani’s victory in the New York Democratic primary this year an outrage because “Muslims did 9/11”.
He believed in political violence. In 2022, when Paul Pelosi, the 82-yearold husband of then-US Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, had his skull broken during a home invasion by a man with a hammer, Kirk called for “some amazing patriot” to post bail for the suspect (Rolling Stone, October 2022).
Here is something he said about race in January last year: “If I see a black pilot, I’m going to be like, ‘boy, I hope he’s qualified’.”
Here is something he said about race and women. On his radio show he said black women “do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously”.
When Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce announced their engagement in August, Kirk said: “This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift more conservative. Engage in reality more . . . Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.”
Maybe lots of people think some of these things. None of us is without prejudice.
But when powerful people say these things they legitimise the harm they can do. Swift, presumably, can look after herself.
But what Kirk said about her invites his followers to treat the women in their lives as less than equal.
Why are we being asked to ignore this? In many ways, free speech has never been stronger.
Social media and the platforming of bigots in free speech’s name have seen to that.
It’s bad enough that the freespeech clarion turns bigots into martyrs. What’s worse, though, is that it distracts us from the things that really do threaten democracy, especially but not only in America.
This includes Trump, the mainstream political party that capitulated to him and the highly organised groups around him.
It also includes the social-media billionaires who have deliberately and possibly irreversibly poisoned our public discourse.
And it includes the corporates that are winning the battle not only to destroy climate science, but to enrich themselves by making the climate crisis worse.
Free speech is the best friend of all these enemies of democracy. It empowers them.
So, yes, let’s defend it. Free speech is important.
But let’s remember what everyone understood when Martin Luther King was killed: the real issue is what it’s used for.

Captain Moonlight hung this day 1880Vic/NSW Bushranger Captain MoonlightAndrew George Scott (5 July 1842 – 20 January 18...
30/09/2025

Captain Moonlight hung this day 1880

Vic/NSW Bushranger Captain Moonlight
Andrew George Scott (5 July 1842 – 20 January 1880)
and lover / partner
James Nesbitt (27 August 1858 – 17 November 1879)

Irish born NZ emigrant to NSW
Aspirant priest
Infamous Bushranger
Scott and Aussie partner Scott seem to have concluded that if they were to be out law bushrangers they could openly be out law homosexuals not hiding their love.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Moonlite

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Nesbitt_(bushranger)

Voting Guide (everything but who!)Most people will have received their voting papers and the "Information and Candidate ...
10/09/2025

Voting Guide (everything but who!)

Most people will have received their voting papers and the "Information and Candidate Profiles" so you can vote anytime from now.

How? It's pretty obvious
1. Make your decisions. I'd recommend going beyond the little printed guide and watching the videos of candidates from the Whanganui Residents & Ratepayers Association meetings. (support the WRRA, independent information like the recent Q&A's is really valuable) Recorded live you get a much better feel for candidate competency than just a photo they picked and a paragraph they wrote!

Candidates and start of their speech. (* = on Council now)
Mayoral https://youtu.be/yCjZMX1L1rw
00:00 Peter Oskam (current councillor)
03:00 Josh Chandulal-Mackay (current councillor)
05:15 Andrew Tripe (current Mayor)

Council Maori Ward https://youtu.be/31hY-oIu
08:40 Julie Herewini
14:35 Hayden Potaka (statement read)
17:20 Phil 'Bear' Reweti
20:15 Kiritahi Firmin
22:40 Geoff Hipango

Council general ward https://youtu.be/gygfmuiNiVE
03:00 Philippa Baker-Hogan*
04:40 Scott Phillips
06:05 Julian Emmett
07:40 Rob Vinsen*
09:45 Sandra Kyle
11:10 Michael Law*
13:20 Tracey Jarman
14:40 Mike Hos
16:15 Awhi Haenga
17:30 Rob Oscroft
19:50 Kate Joblin*
21:20 Robin Westley
23:15 Azian Z
25:00 Jason Bardell
26:20 Charlotte Melser*
28:20 Michael Organ
30:30 Tony Sundman
32:00 Jay Rerekura

Horizons https://youtu.be/LclNR7JBrJ0
02:10 Alan Taylor*
04:15 Phil Haynes
07:05 Martin Visser
09:40 Ben Fraser
(Raki Māori constituency)
12:15 Elijah Pue
14:40 Soraya Peke-Mason

2. Tick the boxes. The one thing I'll say is you don't have to tick 10 for Council. Personally, I've only voted for 9 that I feel confident in.

3. Put into a postbox (if you remember what that is and can find one) or better drop into one of the voting bins dotted around Whanganui (see map in pictures)

On the vote to keep Māori wards...
WDC
Most people will have received their voting papers and the "Information and Candidate Profiles". Information and profiles for WDC Māori ward candidates has been accidentally omitted from this booklet! That is pretty rubbish not only for people on the Māori role but everyone as we're being asked if we want to keep Māori wards not only before we get to see how well they work but without the most basic information on who may occupy those seats! So I'm voting to KEEP the Māori wards as I don't like to be told I need to make a decision on something that hasn't yet had a chance and especially without the most basic and expected information!

Horizons
The Maori ward councillors are IMHO two of the better Horizons Councillors not least because they are mandated to represent the region not just an area. I'm voting KEEP.

4. Info for voting geeks
Candidate email and phone numbers
Whanganui https://www.electionz.com/LGENominations/2025/ELT37WH25_candidates.htm
Horizons
https://www.electionz.com/LGENominations/2025/EL6324HZ_candidates.htm

Daily returns will be here
https://www.electionz.com/lge2025_landing/index.html #
Results will be here
https://www.electionz.com/LGE2025_resource/results.html

10/09/2025
Whanganui Residents & Ratepayers Association did another great job running the Council candidates events last Tuesday an...
10/09/2025

Whanganui Residents & Ratepayers Association did another great job running the Council candidates events last Tuesday and again last night. With a bit of notice this time I managed a better job on the smartphone (tho I've no claim to being videographer). Also big thanks to Tina for jumping in with the livestream on Wanganui News and Events this time around.

The videos are available on a YouTube if you missed the events or want to catchup.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZwpGatSeRHWMWxrMhyTh0LIFNt2QB6xI&si=EdI_4-kw9siHb_0v

It's great having events like this - independent of Council and giving the public the chance to hear candidates speak live and unrehearsed. Whanganui Residents & Ratepayers Association doesn't get funding so relies on memberships and donations to put this kind of event on - they have a stall at the markets so join or give a koha if you can.

Inform your vote!
02/09/2025

Inform your vote!

Meet the People Who Want to Represent You!

Do you want to know who’s really ready to represent Whanganui? Come to the Whanganui Residents & Ratepayers Association "Meet the Candidates" sessions and learn about the candidates’ backgrounds, experience and decide for yourself if they are going to get your vote!

📅 Session 1 – Council (General Roll)
📍 Whanganui War Memorial Concert Chamber
🕠 Wednesday 3rd September | 5:30pm – 8:30pm (6.00pm start)

📅 Session 2 – Mayor, Māori Ward & Horizons
📍 War Memorial Concert Chamber
🕠 Tuesday 9th September | 5:30pm – 8:30pm (6.00pm start)

‼️Submit your questions in advance! The questions submitted will be pulled from a hat on the night.

✅ Make your vote count — know who you’re voting for!

02/09/2025

Good news for Air Chathams on One News this evening 🙂🛫✈️🛬
Was that a classic Convair 580 spotted in the stock footage?

A headline to celebrate!Add to this listing the last year's success in attracting almost 3x more new bookings and that W...
25/08/2025

A headline to celebrate!
Add to this listing the last year's success in attracting almost 3x more new bookings and that Whanganui District Council has signed an agreement for Progress Castlecliff to run the Pavilion for the next 15 years and the future is looking UP for this iconic and historic venue!
Over the next 18 months Progress Castlecliff will be drawing on the our charitable status plus the goodwill of the public and local businesses and leveraging revenue from increased bookings to give the Pavilion a long due renovation in time for The William McAlpine Duncan Pavilion - 60th Birthday in March 2027!
We wish to thank
- The WM (Bill) Duncan Trust for having the vision to fund the Pavilion (and the War Memorial Centre and much much more)
- The Duncan Family for their support.
- Castlecliff locals &supporters plus members, board members, booking officers and chairs of Progress Castlecliff past and present who've worked and fought for The Pavilion
- Whanganui District Council for having the vision to create locally led change that saw the Wanganui Beach Society build the Pavilion in 1966/7 and for understanding in in 2025 why local vision is the way foward for community building.
- and last but not least all the people who by making The Pavilion the venue for their celebrations and events have contributed to keeping it as an iconic (and undoubtedly historic) jewel of a building working for Whanganui!

How can you help?
#1 book your event!
whanganui.link/dp
#2 Join us - Progress Castlecliff AGM

Questions - James 02041586042

Dodecagon pavilion gets top heritage status
Coastal hall now a landmark of significance
Mike Tweed · Aug 26, 2025

A12-sided hall on Whanganui’s Castlecliff Beach has been granted Class A heritage status, adding a layer of protection from potential demolition.
The William McAlpine Duncan Pavilion was given the listing as part of Plan Change 63 – Heritage, which reviewed and amended parts of the Whanganui District Plan.
Progress Castlecliff chairman James Barron told the Chronicle the pavilion, built in 1966, was not listed as a heritage building before the plan change.
“Around 18 months ago, [Progress Castlecliff] thought we’d go for a Blue Plaque, just to emphasise that it is a historic building, not just any old hall,” he said.
“Then I saw the plan change coming up, so I elected to engage with that process instead.”
Whanganui District Council heritage adviser Scott Flutey recommended the A listing.
His assessment of the pavilion, submitted during the plan change process, said it had architectural value, contributed to a sense of contextual heritage significance at Castlecliff Beach, and held social and historical significance.
“In the last decade, the pavilion has gained further social significance for New Zealand’s punk community, playing host to annual Neil Roberts Day music events,” it said.
“The Duncan Pavilion is one of three documented dodecagon [12-sided] buildings in the country.”
A council report last year said demolition of the pavilion was estimated to cost $20,000, with removal and relocation about $150,000.
At the time, Barron said the community needed a hub and the resources it provided.
“Losing it would leave a gap and that’s really not okay, in what is still a relatively remote and emerging, regenerating community.”
As a Class A-listed building, demolition of the pavilion is now a noncomplying activity under the district plan.
Barron said this week that the architect behind the pavilion, Eddie Belchambers, was responsible for other projects around Whanganui, including the council chambers on Guyton St.
The pavilion was built in 1966 by the Wanganui Beach Society and formally opened the following year. “That society was basically a quango of the council at the time,” Barron said.
“I always thought it was really busy when it first opened but, going through the history of it, I think the longest operator there lasted about four years.
“In 1990, it was given back to council and, a year later, it was actually boarded up because of smashed windows. There were 17 in one year.”
The pavilion is a council venue but Progress Castlecliff has formally operated it since 1997.
Barron said the organisation decided last year to put more funding into advertising it and upgrading its booking system.
“We went live last year through SpaceToCo [online booking system], which is basically Airbnb for halls.
“That has worked really well. It makes it easy and new, different people are booking it.”
There were just under 300 bookings at the pavilion for the last financial year, with 65% from people outside Castlecliff, Barron said.
“I think we’ve got the message across that the building is going nowhere.
“We’ve signed a memorandum of understanding with the council that Progress Castlecliff will operate it through to June 2040.”

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23/08/2025

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