11/01/2025
This Greek guy 🇬🇷 claims Greeks like Minos founded Egypt
Response:
Egypt Founded by Greeks? Sure, and Pyramids are a Pack of 52 cards 🃏😂
Let’s get something straight: the idea that the Greeks founded Egypt is as ridiculous as claiming Greeks invented invented art. The ancient Egyptians were building pyramids and documenting the stars while the ancestors of the Greeks were still figuring out how to live without cave drafts. It’s a bold claim, but one that crumbles faster than a poorly-made papyrus scroll under the weight of evidence. So, let’s set the record straight—point by point—and dismantle this myth for good.
1. Afroasiatic Roots: Africa, Not Athens
The Egyptian language, part of the Afroasiatic family, traces its roots to Africa. Linguists like Christopher Ehret and over 10 other independent teams have pinpointed its origin to regions around the Horn of Africa and the Sahara. This linguistic family includes Berber, Cush*tic, Omotic, and Chadic languages—all distinctly African. Sorry, Greece, but Egyptian didn’t get its grammar lessons from Socrates.
2. Pomponius Mela Says Otherwise
Roman geographer Pomponius Mela, writing in the 1st century CE, documented the Egyptians’ own claims of being the oldest civilization, with a lineage spanning over 13,000 years and 330 kings before Amasis. No mention of Greece swooping in to “found” anything here. If anything, the Egyptians considered themselves self-made—and rightly so.
3. African Dynastic Traditions Came First
By the time the Greeks knew which way was up, Egypt had already gone through thousands of years of dynastic rule. The Narmer Palette, from around 3100 BCE, celebrates the unification of Upper and Lower Egypt under an African king. Artifacts like the Qustul incense burner from Nubia show that the symbols of kingship were already African inventions—long before Greece was more than a blip on the Mediterranean map.
4. Genetics Prove the Point
Genetic studies consistently confirm that ancient Egyptians were closely related to Northeast Africans. Haplogroups like E-M35 and maternal lineages such as L3, both African in origin, are found in abundance among ancient Egyptian remains. This isn’t speculation—it’s cold, hard DNA science. No Greek migration swooped in to replace or “civilize” the population.
5. Greeks Borrowed, Not the Other Way Around
Herodotus, the so-called “Father of History,” openly admitted that the Greeks learned much of their wisdom from the Egyptians. Greek philosophers like Pythagoras and Plato didn’t “found” anything in Egypt—they studied there. Egypt was the teacher; Greece was the eager student. The cultural borrowing only flowed in one direction, and it wasn’t north to south.
Aristotle, another important Greek philosopher, writes: “Egypt witnesses to the antiquity of all these things, for the Egyptians appear to be of all people the most ancient; and they have laws and a regular constitution existing from time immemorial. We should therefore make the best use of what has been already discovered, and try to supply defects.” In Politics Book VII Chapter X
6. African Innovations in Astronomy and Religion
Centuries before the Greeks learned to build columns, Africans at Nabta Playa (7500–5500 BCE) were aligning massive stone structures to celestial bodies. These early astronomical practices fed directly into Egypt’s religious systems and architectural alignments. Greece had no part in these innovations—they were rooted in Africa, plain and simple.
7. Egyptians Didn’t See Greeks as Indigenous
The Egyptians referred to their land as “Kemet” (Black Land), a term rooted in their African identity. Greeks, when they arrived much later, were seen as outsiders and foreigners, not as co-founders. Even the Ptolemies, who ruled during the Hellenistic period, adopted Egyptian customs to gain legitimacy—they weren’t considered native Egyptians by anyone except themselves.
8. Geography Anchors Egypt to Africa
Egypt wasn’t just located in Africa; it was shaped by its geography and ecology. The annual Nile floods were the lifeblood of the civilization, a phenomenon tied to African ecosystems. Agriculture, pastoralism, and trade routes from the Sahara and Nubia all contributed to Egypt’s rise. No Greek soil, no Greek water, no Greek founding—just African ingenuity.
Thucydides on Greek Development: A Sobering Contrast to Egypt’s Sophistication
Even Thucydides, the great chronicler of Greek history, didn’t sugarcoat Greece’s primitive beginnings. In History of the Peloponnesian War, he describes the early Greeks as nomadic tribes who subsisted on piracy and raiding, their lands devoid of walls, surplus wealth, or stable settlements. Greek identity itself was a late development; before Hellen and his descendants unified them under the name “Hellenes,” they lived as fragmented communities, barely distinguishable from “barbarians.” In stark contrast, by the time the Greeks were looting unprotected villages, Egypt and Nubia had already developed complex ethical systems like Ma’at, established thriving cities, and built monumental structures that continue to baffle engineers. While the Egyptians were recording astronomical observations and perfecting agricultural techniques, early Greeks were asking passing ships if they were pirates—not as an accusation but as a friendly conversation starter. Thucydides’ unvarnished account of his ancestors highlights the absurdity of claiming that these nascent societies somehow “founded” Egypt. The evidence makes it clear: Greece was struggling to organize itself into a coherent civilization while Egypt was already a beacon of sophistication.
The Bottom Line
The claim that Greece “founded” Egypt ignores mountains of linguistic, genetic, archaeological, and historical evidence. Egypt’s roots are African, its culture was shaped by Africans, and its story is one of indigenous innovation and brilliance. The Greeks may have admired Egypt, but they didn’t build it—no matter how much anyone wishes otherwise.