It's Never About Money

It's Never About Money In the It's Never About Money podcast, host Joe Stephan interviews business owners who are pursuing
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When it comes to success, there is a big difference between money and wealth. In It's Never About Money, host Joe Stephan interviews business owners who are pursuing deeper purpose and meaning in their life, rather than just chasing the dollar. Our guests put their values front-and-centre in business and are driven by making a positive impact in the world. Tune in to hear how their stories have un

folded and the key moments that got them there. Whether you are already pursuing meaning in your life or work, or wondering how the most successful are doing it, this podcast will encourage and inspire you to think differently, because Itโ€™s Never About Money. Joe Stephan is a Financial Planner with Stephan Independent Advisory, based in Melbourne, Australia: www.siadvisory.com.au

Itโ€™s Never About Money is powered by Stephan Independent Advisory: www.itsneveraboutmoney.com.au

In this episode of Itโ€™s Never About Money, I am joined by ๐€๐ฅ๐ฅ๐š๐ง ๐„๐ง๐ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ก ๐€๐Œ. Allan is the Founder and Former CEO of ASX-l...
08/09/2024

In this episode of Itโ€™s Never About Money, I am joined by ๐€๐ฅ๐ฅ๐š๐ง ๐„๐ง๐ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ก ๐€๐Œ. Allan is the Founder and Former CEO of ASX-listed hospitality company, ๐’๐ข๐ฅ๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐‚๐ก๐ž๐Ÿ. In 2010, Allan set up the ๐„๐ง๐ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ก ๐…๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐…๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง to support transformational change in the world through the growth and development of social entrepreneurs and social businesses.

Allan has been nationally recognized for his continued work in the Philanthropic sector and in 2020 he was honoured by being awarded with an Order of Australia AM for Philanthropy and services to the community. In this episode we talk about social entrepreneurship, the power to do good through enterprise, and making a positive impact in the community.

๐„๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ” ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐š๐ฏ๐š๐ข๐ฅ๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ž๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฏ๐ข๐š:

๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://apple.co/3Mbnwr3
๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://spoti.fi/41Oxi8i
๐†๐จ๐จ๐ ๐ฅ๐ž: https://bit.ly/3Inj5YS

01/09/2024

Amie Baker, is a Money Mindset Coach. ๐Ÿง 

It sounds like a cool title, but what does it actually mean?

๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ ๐Œ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ž๐ญ ๐‚๐จ๐š๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐  is all about unlocking the habits and behaviours that can often hinder our success when it comes to money.

Getting your mindset right along with a clear and concise financial plan is a positive way forward in achieving your goals.

I invited Amie on It's Never About Money to explain this in more detail.

๐‹๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐จ ๐„๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ– ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž:
Spotify - https://spoti.fi/3QBZUgi
Apple - https://apple.co/3T0TGIc
Google - https://bit.ly/3Cg3iJg

๐‚๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ž๐ซ ๐œ๐ซ๐จ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ซ๐จ๐š๐๐ฌ & ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ฅ๐จ๐ฉ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐š ๐œ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ž๐ซ ๐œ๐จ๐š๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐š๐ญ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ฆJoin me in the discovery of all things career, leadership and d...
25/08/2024

๐‚๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ž๐ซ ๐œ๐ซ๐จ๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ซ๐จ๐š๐๐ฌ & ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ฅ๐จ๐ฉ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐š ๐œ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ž๐ซ ๐œ๐จ๐š๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐š๐ญ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ

Join me in the discovery of all things career, leadership and development related as I am joined by Christine Khor, director and founder of a business that has managed to bring self-paced career education to the masses.

๐‘๐‘œ๐‘ค ๐‘ ๐‘ก๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘š๐‘–๐‘›๐‘” ๐‘œ๐‘›:
Spotify - http://bit.ly/INAM-Ep09
Apple - https://apple.co/3CeVoO6
Google Podcast - https://bit.ly/3HLBVpz

"My passion is helping people and helping them succeed in fitness. It moved to helping people open their own business an...
18/08/2024

"My passion is helping people and helping them succeed in fitness. It moved to helping people open their own business and.. And you know Iโ€™ve had owners in tears in the opening days because they never thought theyโ€™d own their own business. And itโ€™s just so grateful to say that such an amazing feeling. Money was always the by-product." โ€” ๐€๐š๐ซ๐จ๐ง ๐’๐ฆ๐ข๐ญ๐ก KX Pilates

Listen to ๐€๐š๐ซ๐จ๐ง ๐’๐ฆ๐ข๐ญ๐ก on It's ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ:

Spotify: http://bit.ly/INAM-Ep011
Apple: https://apple.co/3q0yeGH
Google: https://bit.ly/35Qh07F

11/08/2024

"๐น๐‘Ž๐‘š๐‘–๐‘™๐‘–๐‘’๐‘  ๐‘‘๐‘œ ๐‘›๐‘œ๐‘ก ๐‘๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘˜ ๐‘๐‘’๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘ข๐‘ ๐‘’ ๐‘œ๐‘“ ๐‘ค๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘กโ„Ž, ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’๐‘ฆ ๐‘๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘˜ ๐‘‘๐‘œ๐‘ค๐‘› ๐‘–๐‘› ๐‘ ๐‘๐‘–๐‘ก๐‘’ ๐‘œ๐‘“ ๐‘–๐‘ก" - Mike Boyd

Mike Boyd is the co-owner and CEO of , founder of Prosura Insurance, an investor at Mudbrick Capital, an active YPO member, and host of the Business of Family Podcast.

Mike is a forward-thinking entrepreneur with incredible insights and knowledge of multi-generational wealth and family business. This episode traverses a spectrum of topics including family constitutions, stewardship, and multi-generational storytelling.

๐‹๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ž๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž:
Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3LhUbdd
Apple: https://apple.co/3gy3QOM
Google Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3GHbWil

"Make sure you give back, and make sure you help others. Do good things to people and be generous." โ€” Anthony Phillips o...
04/08/2024

"Make sure you give back, and make sure you help others. Do good things to people and be generous." โ€” Anthony Phillips of Camp Australia


Listen to ๐€๐ง๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ง๐ฒ ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฉ๐ฌ on ๐ˆ๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ.

Spotify: http://bit.ly/INAM-Ep08
Apple: https://apple.co/3vEBR8F
Google: https://bit.ly/3tswIhn

28/07/2024

๐“๐ก๐ž ๐ซ๐ž๐ฅ๐š๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ก๐ข๐ฉ ๐›๐ž๐ญ๐ฐ๐ž๐ž๐ง ๐ฐ๐ž๐š๐ฅ๐ญ๐ก & ๐ก๐š๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ƒ๐ซ ๐‡๐š๐ฅ ๐‡๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ๐ก๐Ÿ๐ข๐ž๐ฅ๐, ๐”๐‚๐‹๐€

Hal Hershfield joins me on It's Never About Money to discuss the research that indicates the clear relationship between a person's sense of happiness or utility and their level of wealth.

If you'd like to hear more, head on over to Apple Podcast, Google, or Spotify using the links below:

Spotify: http://bit.ly/INAM-Ep10
Apple: https://apple.co/3ofXeaG
Google: http://bit.ly/INAMEp10

"I used to think that I would just do anything for moneyโ€ฆ I thought my passion was money. I thought those two things lik...
21/07/2024

"I used to think that I would just do anything for moneyโ€ฆ I thought my passion was money. I thought those two things like, I thought it was ok to be passionate about making money, work. And I looked up to the partners who were the most successful partners in law firms those days made between 1 to 1.5 million a year. And I was like, I want to be that. I want to do that. Why? Because I want 1 to 1.5 million a year. that's it. And in many ways, youโ€™re often taught to be like that. You can be conditioned to be like that." โ€” ๐“๐ข๐ฆ ๐–๐š๐ฌ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐จ๐ง of

Listen to ๐“๐ข๐ฆ ๐–๐š๐ฌ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐จ๐ง on It's ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ:

Spotify: https://spoti.fi/36XM9q1
Apple: https://apple.co/3KjtIui
Google: https://bit.ly/3pDTtOl

"Ideally, we wanted to build a business to find a particular lifestyle, which is just to really give us some choices and...
14/07/2024

"Ideally, we wanted to build a business to find a particular lifestyle, which is just to really give us some choices and put the kids through schoolโ€ฆ It is a tipping point where we realised that we needed to employ some people, we were small businesses that went to 15 people. It took a lot of hard effort to get there. But once it did, it was great." โ€” Paul Marsh

Listen to ๐๐š๐ฎ๐ฅ ๐Œ๐š๐ซ๐ฌ๐ก on ๐ˆ๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ.

Spotify: http://bit.ly/INAM-Ep04
Apple: https://apple.co/375YYij
Google: https://bit.ly/3Cdkr4m

# P2Group

"Something had to give at some point. And it was like, okay, youโ€™ve done all the things you thought, ๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘š๐‘’ ๐‘ก๐‘œ ๐‘Ž๐‘๐‘ก๐‘ข๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘™๐‘ฆ ๐‘”๐‘œ...
07/07/2024

"Something had to give at some point. And it was like, okay, youโ€™ve done all the things you thought, ๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘š๐‘’ ๐‘ก๐‘œ ๐‘Ž๐‘๐‘ก๐‘ข๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘™๐‘ฆ ๐‘”๐‘œ ๐‘–๐‘›๐‘ค๐‘Ž๐‘Ÿ๐‘‘. And it's not to say that I had completely neglected my inner world but it required a lot of deep diving over the last few years. To answer your question, I think to be successful is to be physically well, to be emotionally well and spiritually well, whatever that might mean for you. But when we just focus on one or the other, the other areas will catch up." โ€” Sarah Hawley of

Listen to ๐’๐š๐ซ๐š๐ก ๐‡๐š๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ž๐ฒ on ๐ˆ๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ.

Spotify: http://bit.ly/INAM-Ep07
Apple: https://apple.co/3HKhZn9
Google: https://bit.ly/3sIuLhr

# Growmotely

"Our culture is very strong and our community is very connected because of common ground. Weโ€™ve got commonalityโ€ฆ weโ€™re i...
30/06/2024

"Our culture is very strong and our community is very connected because of common ground. Weโ€™ve got commonalityโ€ฆ weโ€™re in the trenches together. Weโ€™re doing the same exercises. Thereโ€™s no mirrors to shift your focus and make it a more selfish hobby. Itโ€™s not like you would find in a gym environment where thereโ€™s mirrors everywhere and youโ€™re doing your own thing, youโ€™ve got earpods in, youโ€™re unapproachable. People are welcome and people of all shapes, sizes, ages, genders, welcome in our community." โ€” Craig Abbott @

Listen to ๐‚๐ซ๐š๐ข๐  ๐€๐›๐›๐จ๐ญ๐ญ on ๐ˆ๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ.

Spotify: http://bit.ly/INAM-Ep03
Apple: https://apple.co/3ILFg9u
Google: https://bit.ly/36XPntH

23/06/2024

For too long women haven't had the same opportunities and men.

I sat down with Marianne Marchesi (.au) to talk about feminism, equality of opportunity and Ancient Egypt.

๐“๐จ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ž๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž, ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ ๐ญ๐จ:

๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: ๐ก๐ญ๐ญ๐ฉ://๐›๐ข๐ญ.๐ฅ๐ฒ/๐ˆ๐๐€๐Œ-๐„๐ฉ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ
๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: ๐ก๐ญ๐ญ๐ฉ๐ฌ://๐š๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž.๐œ๐จ/๐Ÿ‘๐ญ๐ฌ๐”๐ญ๐Ÿ—๐Ÿ”
๐†๐จ๐จ๐ ๐ฅ๐ž: ๐ก๐ญ๐ญ๐ฉ๐ฌ://๐›๐ข๐ญ.๐ฅ๐ฒ/๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ”๐“๐ฆ๐›๐ง๐‚

16/06/2024

Dolly Parton doesn't care what others think - and you shouldn't either!

In this episode, Bree Cleal discusses the power in vulnerability and how you can use that to your advantage.

A bit of a to Episode 6 of It's Never About Money with Bree Cleal.

๐‹๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ž๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž:

SPOTIFY - http://bit.ly/INAM-Ep06
APPLE - https://apple.co/3pEUIMV
GOOGLE - https://bit.ly/3sS4s8V

Have you ever thought about the connection between what you do and its deeper purpose? Or do you think that repetitive a...
09/06/2024

Have you ever thought about the connection between what you do and its deeper purpose? Or do you think that repetitive and mundane weekday tasks arenโ€™t allowing you to thrive?

This week Iโ€™m joined by Dan Cumberland - host of The Meaning Movement Podcast.

We discussed a number of frameworks and models to help people who feel stuck. These frameworks can help people to change their mindset or, sometimes, just change lanes altogether.

๐…๐จ๐ซ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ž, ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐จ ๐„๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ— ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ:

๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: ๐ก๐ญ๐ญ๐ฉ๐ฌ://๐ฌ๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข.๐Ÿ๐ข/๐Ÿ‘๐‘๐ก๐˜๐€๐๐œ
๐†๐จ๐จ๐ ๐ฅ๐ž: ๐ก๐ญ๐ญ๐ฉ๐ฌ://๐›๐ข๐ญ.๐ฅ๐ฒ/๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ๐ญ๐Ÿ’๐š๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ“
๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: ๐ก๐ญ๐ญ๐ฉ๐ฌ://๐š๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž.๐œ๐จ/๐Ÿ‘๐™๐ค๐Ÿ“๐‡๐‹๐

"I think there are many types of wealth in this world and I think the one that people actually care about is those aroun...
02/06/2024

"I think there are many types of wealth in this world and I think the one that people actually care about is those around them and will go out of their way. And Iโ€™ve felt a responsibility for people beyond their own circle and I think that's pretty important." โ€” ๐ƒ๐ซ ๐–๐ž๐ง๐๐ฒ ๐’๐œ๐š๐ข๐Ÿ๐ž at QUT (Queensland University of Technology)

Listen to ๐ƒ๐ซ ๐–๐ž๐ง๐๐ฒ ๐’๐œ๐š๐ข๐Ÿ๐ž on It's ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ:

Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3nbJVsf
Apple: https://apple.co/3tVumbB
Google: https://bit.ly/3QL9e1F

26/05/2024

Since receiving the Ernst and Young Entrepreneur of the Year award in 2013, ๐€๐ฅ๐ฅ๐š๐ง ๐„๐ง๐ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ก has been talking to UQโ€™s MBA class every year. Heโ€™s seen a seismic shift in the goals for students taking these classes.

In the last 10 years, there has been a shift in goals from wanting to work at banks to wanting to become social entrepreneurs.

๐“๐จ ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ž๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž, ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ ๐ญ๐จ:

๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://apple.co/3Mbnwr3
๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://spoti.fi/41Oxi8i
๐†๐จ๐จ๐ ๐ฅ๐ž: https://bit.ly/3Inj5YS

19/05/2024

Money can be a wonderful tool to make our lives better and to do good in the world.

But by letting money have all the power, our lives can become overrun by anxiety and greed.

This weekโ€™s guest, Amie baker (), thinks we need to take the power back and be in control of our lives. ๐Ÿ’ช

๐‘ป๐’ ๐’‡๐’Š๐’๐’… ๐’๐’–๐’• ๐’‰๐’๐’˜, ๐’๐’Š๐’”๐’•๐’†๐’ ๐’•๐’ ๐‘ฌ๐’‘๐’Š๐’”๐’๐’…๐’† ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด ๐’๐’‡ ๐‘ฐ๐’•โ€™๐’” ๐‘ต๐’†๐’—๐’†๐’“ ๐‘จ๐’ƒ๐’๐’–๐’• ๐‘ด๐’๐’๐’†๐’š:

Spotify - https://spoti.fi/3QBZUgi
Apple - https://apple.co/3T0TGIc
Google - https://bit.ly/3Cg3iJg

12/05/2024

๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ—% ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ฉ๐ž๐จ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ค ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฒ ๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฐ๐ซ๐จ๐ง๐  ๐œ๐š๐ซ๐ž๐ž๐ซ.

Which means that 49% of people are in the "wrong lane" according to my guest Christine Khor, director and founder of .

She discusses about how she switched lanes and completely transformed her own career.

๐น๐‘–๐‘›๐‘‘ ๐‘œ๐‘ข๐‘ก ๐‘š๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ๐‘’ ๐‘–๐‘› ๐ธ๐‘๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘œ๐‘‘๐‘’ ๐Ÿซ ๐‘œ๐‘“ ๐ผ๐‘ก'๐‘  ๐‘๐‘’๐‘ฃ๐‘’๐‘Ÿ ๐ด๐‘๐‘œ๐‘ข๐‘ก ๐‘š๐‘œ๐‘›๐‘’๐‘ฆ, ๐‘›๐‘œ๐‘ค ๐‘ ๐‘ก๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘š๐‘–๐‘›๐‘” ๐‘œ๐‘›:
Spotify - http://bit.ly/INAM-Ep09
Apple - https://apple.co/3CeVoO6
Google Podcast - https://bit.ly/3HLBVpz

05/05/2024

Aaron Smith explains how pivotal his wife Andi has been to the success of KX Pilates and how their differences are a massive asset to KX.

๐‹๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ž๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐ก๐ž๐ซ๐ž:
Spotify ~ http://bit.ly/INAM-Ep011
Apple Podcasts ~https://apple.co/3q0yeGH
Google ~ https://bit.ly/35Qh07F

28/04/2024

๐–๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐›๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐Ÿ๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ?

Mike Boyd, CEO of , has a keen interest and insight into the systems that govern multigenerational business families.

In fact, he even has his own podcast called The Business of Family.

But what does that actually mean?

๐‹๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐จ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ž๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐ญ๐จ ๐Ÿ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ:

Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3LhUbdd
Apple: https://apple.co/3gy3QOM
Google Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3GHbWil

23/04/2024

... and that's a wrap! Thank you for tuning into the 4th season of It's Never About Money!

This season, I interviewed 10 amazing guests, each sharing their view on the intersections of meaning and money.

We've heard about philanthropy, money in relationships, family capital, entrepreneurship, happiness, fulfilment, careers and more.

I'd like to thank all of my guests for sharing their time and wisdom with me:
๐ŸŽง Travis Shelton at Meaning Over Money
๐ŸŽง Darian Clark Cufa
๐ŸŽง Stephen Scheeler
๐ŸŽง Alastair Henry
๐ŸŽง Dr Amantha Imber
๐ŸŽง Lisa Williams UNSW
๐ŸŽง David Ward
๐ŸŽง Daniel Flynn Thankyou
๐ŸŽง Alex Kirby
๐ŸŽง Associate Professor Scott Rick

This season has been the best yet, and I cannot wait to release Season 5 later this year!

Recently I had such a great conversation with Vincent Dai on the Curious Mind Podcast.We talked about ethics when runnin...
22/04/2024

Recently I had such a great conversation with Vincent Dai on the Curious Mind Podcast.

We talked about ethics when running a business, the psychology behind money and how we approach it as a result, and how our perceptions of life have changed with time.

Thank you so much for having me! We'll have to do it again sometime ๐Ÿ˜€

Have a listen here:
๐˜๐จ๐ฎ๐“๐ฎ๐›๐ž: https://bit.ly/42zj8tP
๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://bit.ly/3UfDJ47
๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://apple.co/3SpIt4r

"I have as much joy out of some boys that were just local footballers. People said, โ€œ๐‘Œ๐‘œ๐‘ขโ€™๐‘Ÿ๐‘’ ๐‘ก๐‘œ๐‘œ ๐‘ ๐‘š๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘™, ๐‘ก๐‘œ๐‘œ ๐‘ ๐‘™๐‘œ๐‘ค. ๐ถ๐‘Ž๐‘›โ€™๐‘ก ๐‘‘...
21/04/2024

"I have as much joy out of some boys that were just local footballers. People said, โ€œ๐‘Œ๐‘œ๐‘ขโ€™๐‘Ÿ๐‘’ ๐‘ก๐‘œ๐‘œ ๐‘ ๐‘š๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘™, ๐‘ก๐‘œ๐‘œ ๐‘ ๐‘™๐‘œ๐‘ค. ๐ถ๐‘Ž๐‘›โ€™๐‘ก ๐‘‘๐‘œ ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘–๐‘ . ๐ถ๐‘Ž๐‘›โ€™๐‘ก ๐‘‘๐‘œ ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘Ž๐‘ก.โ€ And then they go ahead and play at very high levels. I get as much, if not more, joy about those that get written off by people. I just want to be that nurturer around them and say, โ€œYou can do this. You can do anything.โ€ โ€” Anthony Phillips of Camp Australia

Listen to ๐€๐ง๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ง๐ฒ ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฉ๐ฌ on ๐ˆ๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ.

Spotify: http://bit.ly/INAM-Ep08
Apple: https://apple.co/3vEBR8F
Google: https://bit.ly/3tswIhn

14/04/2024

๐“๐ข๐ฆ๐ž ๐ญ๐ซ๐š๐ฏ๐ž๐ฅ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐ข๐๐ž๐š๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ž - ๐ƒ๐ซ ๐‡๐š๐ฅ ๐‡๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ๐ก๐Ÿ๐ข๐ž๐ฅ๐, ๐”๐‚๐‹๐€

Hal Hershfield goes through the research that describes the benefit and consequences of immersing yourself in the future and then working backwards to sequence the events that get you moving to that ideal future.

If you'd like to hear more, head on over to Apple Podcast, Google, or Spotify using the links below:

Spotify: http://bit.ly/INAM-Ep10
Apple: https://apple.co/3ofXeaG
Google: http://bit.ly/INAMEp10

14/04/2024

This week I was joined by ๐’๐œ๐จ๐ญ๐ญ ๐‘๐ข๐œ๐ค, Associate Professor of Marketing at the ๐”๐ง๐ข๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐Œ๐ข๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ ๐š๐งโ€™๐ฌ ๐‘๐จ๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐’๐œ๐ก๐จ๐จ๐ฅ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ.

He told me about an experiment he conducted with newlywed couples where they tested if merging accounts and sharing money resulted in a happier relationship. As it turns out, it does a lot of good things!

๐“๐จ ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ž๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž, ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ ๐ญ๐จ:

๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/cLdVeq

๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/8dFUO

๐†๐จ๐จ๐ ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/WywzNb


12/04/2024

This weekโ€™s episode was truly fascinating. I had the pleasure of being joined by ๐’๐œ๐จ๐ญ๐ญ ๐‘๐ข๐œ๐ค, Associate Professor of Marketing at the ๐”๐ง๐ข๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐Œ๐ข๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ ๐š๐งโ€™๐ฌ ๐‘๐จ๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐’๐œ๐ก๐จ๐จ๐ฅ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ.

We discussed the continuum on spending behaviour, which Scott uncovers in his book, "๐‘‡๐‘–๐‘”โ„Ž๐‘ก๐‘ค๐‘Ž๐‘‘๐‘  ๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘‘ ๐‘†๐‘๐‘’๐‘›๐‘‘๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘“๐‘ก๐‘ : ๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘ฃ๐‘–๐‘”๐‘Ž๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘›๐‘” ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘€๐‘œ๐‘›๐‘’๐‘ฆ ๐‘€๐‘–๐‘›๐‘’๐‘“๐‘–๐‘’๐‘™๐‘‘ ๐‘–๐‘› ๐‘…๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘™ ๐‘…๐‘’๐‘™๐‘Ž๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘œ๐‘›๐‘ โ„Ž๐‘–๐‘๐‘ ."

If you havenโ€™t read it, I highly recommend you pick yourself up a copy.

For more, listen to ๐„๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐Ÿ”๐ŸŽ of Itโ€™s ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ:

๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/cLdVeq

๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/8dFUO

๐†๐จ๐จ๐ ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/WywzNb


Boy, oh boy, do we have a great episode in store for you! This week, I am joined by ๐’๐œ๐จ๐ญ๐ญ ๐‘๐ข๐œ๐ค, Associate Professor of M...
09/04/2024

Boy, oh boy, do we have a great episode in store for you!

This week, I am joined by ๐’๐œ๐จ๐ญ๐ญ ๐‘๐ข๐œ๐ค, Associate Professor of Marketing at the ๐”๐ง๐ข๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ๐ฌ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐Œ๐ข๐œ๐ก๐ข๐ ๐š๐งโ€™๐ฌ ๐‘๐จ๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐’๐œ๐ก๐จ๐จ๐ฅ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ. Scott's research, which spans across marketing, psychology, economics, and neuroscience, provides a science-based guide to understanding and transforming how we manage money in relationships.

In our conversation, we delve into a number of topics raised in Scottโ€™s book, "Tightwads and Spendthrifts: Navigating the Money Minefield in Real Relationships." Leaving no stone unturned, we discuss what it means to be a tightwad vs a spendthrift, communal vs exchange relationships and tips to help you and your relationships (wherever you fall on the continuum of spending behaviours).

This was a truly fascinating conversation with Scott and I am very much looking forward to having him on again!

๐„๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐Ÿ”๐ŸŽ ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐š๐ฏ๐š๐ข๐ฅ๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ž๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฏ๐ข๐š:

๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/cLdVeq

๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/8dFUO

๐†๐จ๐จ๐ ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/WywzNb


07/04/2024

๐–๐ก๐ฒ ๐๐จ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ค ๐ฌ๐จ ๐ก๐š๐ซ๐?

Is it for money, holidays, cars, a nice home? Or something else?

In this episode, I sat down with Tim Washington, the CEO of to talk about his changing relationship with his career motivations.

His pivot from being motivated by money to instead chasing his passions may have been the best career decision that heโ€™s made to date.

๐“๐จ ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ž, ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž ๐๐จ๐๐œ๐š๐ฌ๐ญ, ๐†๐จ๐จ๐ ๐ฅ๐ž, ๐จ๐ซ ๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ฅ๐ข๐ง๐ค๐ฌ ๐›๐ž๐ฅ๐จ๐ฐ;
๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: ๐ก๐ญ๐ญ๐ฉ๐ฌ://๐ฌ๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข.๐Ÿ๐ข/๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ”๐—๐Œ๐Ÿ—๐ช๐Ÿ
๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: ๐ก๐ญ๐ญ๐ฉ๐ฌ://๐š๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž.๐œ๐จ/๐Ÿ‘๐Š๐ฃ๐ญ๐ˆ๐ฎ๐ข
๐†๐จ๐จ๐ ๐ฅ๐ž: ๐ก๐ญ๐ญ๐ฉ๐ฌ://๐›๐ข๐ญ.๐ฅ๐ฒ/๐Ÿ‘๐ฉ๐ƒ๐“๐ญ๐Ž๐ฅ

02/04/2024

I had such an interesting conversation with ๐€๐ฅ๐ž๐ฑ ๐Š๐ข๐ซ๐›๐ฒ - Founder and CEO of ๐“๐จ๐ญ๐š๐ฅ ๐…๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐Œ๐š๐ง๐š๐ ๐ž๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ - this week, that Iโ€™m so thrilled to share.

We talked all about the five forms of family capital as defined by Jay Hughes. They are: human, intellectual, social, cultural and financial.

To find out more, listen to ๐„๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ— of ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ:

๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/cLdVeq

๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/8dFUO

๐†๐จ๐จ๐ ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/WywzNb


01/04/2024

My conversation with ๐€๐ฅ๐ž๐ฑ ๐Š๐ข๐ซ๐›๐ฒ this week really revolved around family and values.

Alex founded ๐“๐จ๐ญ๐š๐ฅ ๐…๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐Œ๐š๐ง๐š๐ ๐ž๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ in 2022 with the belief that family is central to everyone's life, and in our conversation that sentiment was loud and clear!

๐“๐จ ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ž๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž, ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ ๐ญ๐จ:

๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/cLdVeq

๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/8dFUO

๐†๐จ๐จ๐ ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/WywzNb


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