02/12/2021
**New Episode!**
In a new episode released yesterday, our guest was Joan Garry, author of the Guide to Nonprofit Leadership and host of the Nonprofits are Messy podcast. Molly MacCready and Joan discuss the importance of knowing what activities fuel you, how to define impact beyond the typical metrics, and some ways to learn and grow as a nonprofit following this unexpected pandemic time. Joan shares from her experiences of working with small nonprofit leaders within the [MEMBERS ONLY] Nonprofit Leadership Lab Village, along with her own years as a nonprofit leader, board member, and donor.
You can find the episode on most podcast apps by searching for the Nonprofit Optimist. You can also listen to the episode on our website by visiting: www.nonprofitoptimist.com/blog/npo-047-joan-garry
Today's Guest: Joan Garry Joan Garry began her career in 1981 as part of the management team that launched MTV. She followed this successful eight-year tenure with another successful run as an executive at Showtime Networks. Then, in 1997 while either having a midlife crisis or avoiding one, Garry