I Hate It But I Love It is the podcast about the pop culture that you hate and love simultaneously. Hosted by Kat Angus and Jocelyn Geddie.
Winner: Best Comedy, Best Host (Jocelyn Geddie), and People’s Choice at the Canadian Podcast Awards.
🎉New episode! Put together a shoddy plan to depose the king and use whatever accent you feel like even though we're in France in the 1600s, cause we're talking about THE MAN IN THE IRON MASK! Kat and Jocelyn discuss how everyone's in a different film, extremely broad attempts at comedy, and Jocelyn shares a surprisingly pro-iron mask stance. Listen now!
🎉New episode! We're talking about Ridley Scott's ill-fated 1986 film LEGEND, and we feel just as confused as Tom Cruise looks. A troubled production, a movie studio caught on fire, a nonsensical script — what more could you want from an IHIBILI? Listen now!
🎉New episode! This week, we’re talking about the 2018 remake of Suspiria! We talk confusing plans, confusing plots, and confusing themes. It’s all confusing. Plus, we discuss the perils of a rope-based costume if you happen to have big b***s. Listen. now!
🎉New episode! We’re kicking off a month of dance movies with Magic Mike XXL! Join us as we discuss a plot that decides to go pure wish fulfillment, a cute dance sequence in a store, and Jocelyn’s erroneous belief that Channing Tatum is on the verge of a breakthrough. (He has… broken through.) Listen now!
🎉New episode! Eat The Rich Month continues with the Justin Timberlake joint (?) IN TIME! We talk about a concept that’s DOA, consider Amanda Seyfried’s dreadful wig, and ponder whether or not Justin asked to beatbox. Listen now!
🎉New episode! Eat The Rich Month continues with Oliver Stone’s WALL STREET! We talk about morals delivered with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer, how horrible we’d be as stockbrokers, and how stressful this movie is for rule-followers. Listen now!
🎉New episode! Eat the Rich Month continues this week with 2012's The Hunger Games! We talk about the age old debate (Peeta or Gale), discuss some real bad wigs, and question whether Jennifer Lawrence is the right choice for Katniss (she really is but maybe she also isn't?). Listen now!
It's Eat The Rich Month on IHIBILI and we're kicking things off with a movie that's more "Please don't eat the rich cause we're nice, actually" -- Emerald Fennell's Saltburn! We talk about gross-out scenes, a twist that's scarcely a twist, and how this movie lets everyone who isn't Oliver off the hook. Listen now!
🎉New episode! It's the final week of Action Movie Month, and we're talking about the 2011 Ryan Gosling movie DRIVE! It's a rare one where Jocelyn hates it and Kat loves it, y'all. Will their friendship survive? (Yes.) Listen now!
I hate that I am writing this, but here we go:
The Writers Guild of Canada is facing the prospect of a strike, for much the same reasons as the Writers Guild of America went on strike last year. There are a bunch of issues on the table, like appropriate working conditions and appropriate compensation for our work. But the number one issue is that we want to protect our work from being taken over by AI. Producers are refusing to guarantee that AI wouldn't be used to develop concepts (which not only takes credits away from writers but much needed work), and that our scripts wouldn't be used to train AI (meaning, AI could learn how to write material based on our voices, so that we could be fired and AI could write shows for "free").
There are about 9 million reasons why this is terrible. Contrary to what you might have heard, generative AI doesn't actually create new material; it just takes existing work from artists without credit or compensation and mashes it into an unintelligible slurry. A venture capital firm that's one of the biggest backers of AI has straight up admitted that AI wouldn't be profitable, or even possible, if they had to pay for all the copyrighted material they were using. (And even without that, AI doesn't come cheap: ChatGPT costs $700,000 A DAY to operate because of the number of servers required). I've never been one to gamble. But staking the future of the industry on tech that only works through theft, that is exponentially more expensive than human writers, that potentially leaves you liable to legal action over copyright infringement, and that certainly cannot problem-solve or strategize or rewrite to meet the new budget or perform any of the hundreds of tasks writers perform every day in film and TV-- that seems to me to be a STAGGERINGLY bad bet.
But more than the myriad problems AI presents from a logistical standpoint, this is about good, talented, hard-working people facing the prospect of losing their livelihood. And it's about audiences losing their access to good, heartfelt, meaningful films and television. Everything you've ever loved to watch exists because someone brought their REAL mind and heart and experiences and perspective to the table, because they had something they wanted or needed to share, because a voice like theirs didn't exist on screen yet and they saw that absence and they fought to translate their vision onto screen. It's not just that I want to continue working (although I really really do, I LOVE to work), it's simply that I want art to continue to exist. I deserve that. You deserve that. Your children deserve that. We are all better than some regurgitated slurm that a computer spat out because it was cheaper in the short-term.
So, please -- if you work in the arts in any way, or if you want yourself and your children to continue to have access to GOOD work -- please show your support for the WGC. Share our posts, make our profile picture your profile picture, tell producers that you will not stand for this. Because the awful reality is, we will all find ourselves in this position sooner rather than later. If our work can be devalued and dehumanized, yours can too. (That goes for you too, producers!) It's scary as hell, but let's not be afraid -- let's stand together and say that we're not gonna let this happen.
(Also, literally WOE BETIDE YOU if you use generative AI! I've seen a lot of brutal AI art circulating recently and have MORE THAN ONCE thought to myself, "oh that absolutely is using concepts from highly profitable films", and if you tried to profit from using that crappy AI art you'd be flattened by the force of a million lawyers! So good luck I guess!)
🎉New episode! Action Movie Month continues with one of the most ridiculous movies ever made — HIGHLANDER 2: THE QUICKENING! We discuss a baffling old man performance, an inexplicable… everything, and the worst cinematic use of “Amazing Grace” to date. Listen now!
🎉New episode! It's once again time for Action Movie Month, and we're kicking it off with 2002's EQUILIBRIUM, a VERY silly movie that also kind of rules? Come for the questionable "gun-kata" fight scenes, stay for the longing stares at the Mona Lisa and a puppy. Listen now!
🎉New episode! It’s the final week of Movie Musical Month and we’re discussing Bohemian Rhapsody! Kat and Jocelyn discuss endless montages, terrible teeth prosthetics, and Jocelyn makes Kat make a promise that she cannot or will not keep. Listen now!
🎉New episode! Musical Movie Month rages on with MUPPET TREASURE ISLAND! We talk about our favourite Muppets, discuss sub-par musical moments, and Kat roasts the hell out of Jocelyn's musical taste. Listen now!
Want to listen to us finally discuss THE GREATEST SHOWMAN? Well, only our Patreons members get to hear it (along with 80 other bonus episodes, plus ad-free regular episodes). So go join our Patreon now!
🎉 New episode! It's Movie Musical month once again, and we're kicking things off with 1980's XANADU! So, you're an artist struggling with inspiration? Never fear, here comes Olivia Newton-John on rollerskates to inspire you to... open a nightclub! Sure. Listen now!
🎉New episode! We’re wrapping up Romance Movie Month with Fried Green Tomatoes! We talk the world’s most fast paced plot, stuff from the book that didn’t get into the movie, and how much Kathy Bates rules. Listen now!
🎉New episode! We’re continuing Romance Movie Month with J.Lo’s music video/passion project/movie/thing, THIS IS ME...NOW. We talk about falsified histories, crump heart factories, and Ben Affleck doing improv. Listen now!
🎉New episode! Romance Movie Month continues, and we're talking about the best "wear a helmet and pay attention" PSA ever made, CITY OF ANGELS! We talk about how the true star of the film is Dennis Franz, how Nicolas Cage’s character is actually quite unsettling, and how being an angel seems mostly like being an agent from The Matrix franchise? Listen now!
🎉New episode! It’s Romantic Movie Month once again, and we’re talking about Sweet Home Alabama! We discuss how Reese Witherspoon can (almost) do no wrong, how this movie is surprisingly sad, and Jocelyn pitches a fashion line. Listen now!
🐍👀New episode! In the final week of '90s thriller month, Nic Cage is gonna Nic Cage in SNAKE EYES! They trick us with an incredible one shot scene at the start, and then it’s all mediocre from there. Carla Gugino tries to go incognito in a wig that’s brighter than the sun, and Gary Sinise gives us an underwhelming plot climax after their original one didn’t work out. Listen now!
🎉New episode! This week for '90s Thriller Month, we’re discussing THE FIRM! We talk about a company that doesn’t even TRY to cover up its conspiracy, ruminate on how bad we’d be in this kind of situation, and love on Holly Hunter. Listen now!
🎉New episode! It’s '90s Thrillers Month and we’re talking about DOUBLE JEOPARDY! We discuss a movie that holds no water whatsoever, legally speaking, a plan that’s no plan at all, and how Tommy Lee Jones is just delivering more of the same (in a great way!). Listen now!
🎉New episode! Happy new year — we're kicking things off with A MURDER AT THE END OF THE WORLD, because we just can't resist a new show from the creator of The OA, y'all. We talk about how We Live In A Society, how this show is both too much and not enough, and about how frickin' hot both Emma Corrin and Harris Dickinson are. Listen now!
🎉New episode! Jocelyn is still sick, so this week we're releasing one of our 2020 Patreon bonus episodes, about the David Fincher thriller THE GAME! We get confused about the mysterious company's business plan, try and fail to suspend our disbelief THIS much, and marvel that there's a guy whose entire job is just to p**s his pants. Listen now!
🎉New episode! Chris-Mas (our month of Chris movies) continues this week with Chris Pine in WONDER WOMAN 1984! Jocelyn is sick, so Kat is joined by Diana McCallum from the Talk From Superheroes podcast. We talk about the horrifying way they bring Steve Trevor back (why??), how Pedro Pascal changes the rule of wishes for no reason, and poor Kristen Wiig is turned into the least cheetah-looking Cheetah. Listen now!
🎉New episode! This week, we're kicking off Chris-Mas - a full month of films starring Hollywood's favourite Chrises - and to start, we're talking about the 2005 version of FANTASTIC FOUR with special guest Rebecca Reeds (The Villain Was Right, Comedians in Dungeons Getting Dragons)! We talk about whether Nip or Tuck stars in the film, the difficulty of disguising an Australian accent, terrible punk, and a plot that boils down to a hot man bullying a very sad rock man. Listen now!
🎉New episode! In the final week of Listener Request Month, we're discussing Kill Bill Vol. 1! We talk about cultural appropriation vs. homage vs. maybe just straight up stealing, chat about female empowerment in the early '00s (hint: it was bad), and Kat and Jocelyn explore their very different definitions of "edgelord." Listen now!
🎉New episode! Listener Request Month continues, and we've got the babysitting blues, because we're talking about 1987's ADVENTURES IN BABYSITTING! We talk about a plot that makes us go "no" and also "why", discuss Kat's mixed feelings towards the kid in this movie (and kids in general), and talk about Elisabeth Shue's perfect hair. Listen now!
🎉New episode! We're continuing Listener Request Month with House Of Gucci, an absolute ham sandwich brought to life as a film. We discuss bad accents, bad performances, bad wigs, just... it's all bad. Help us. (Listen now!)
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🎉New episode! Put together a shoddy plan to depose the king and use whatever accent you feel like even though we're in France in the 1600s, cause we're talking about THE MAN IN THE IRON MASK! Kat and Jocelyn discuss how everyone's in a different film, extremely broad attempts at comedy, and Jocelyn shares a surprisingly pro-iron mask stance. Listen now!
🎉New episode! We're talking about Ridley Scott's ill-fated 1986 film LEGEND, and we feel just as confused as Tom Cruise looks. A troubled production, a movie studio caught on fire, a nonsensical script — what more could you want from an IHIBILI? Listen now!
🎉New episode! This week, we’re talking about the 2018 remake of Suspiria! We talk confusing plans, confusing plots, and confusing themes. It’s all confusing. Plus, we discuss the perils of a rope-based costume if you happen to have big boobs. Listen. now!
🎉New episode! We’re kicking off a month of dance movies with Magic Mike XXL! Join us as we discuss a plot that decides to go pure wish fulfillment, a cute dance sequence in a store, and Jocelyn’s erroneous belief that Channing Tatum is on the verge of a breakthrough. (He has… broken through.) Listen now!
🎉New episode! Eat The Rich Month continues with the Justin Timberlake joint (?) IN TIME! We talk about a concept that’s DOA, consider Amanda Seyfried’s dreadful wig, and ponder whether or not Justin asked to beatbox. Listen now!
🎉New episode! Eat The Rich Month continues with Oliver Stone’s WALL STREET! We talk about morals delivered with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer, how horrible we’d be as stockbrokers, and how stressful this movie is for rule-followers. Listen now!
🎉New episode! Eat the Rich Month continues this week with 2012's The Hunger Games! We talk about the age old debate (Peeta or Gale), discuss some real bad wigs, and question whether Jennifer Lawrence is the right choice for Katniss (she really is but maybe she also isn't?). Listen now!
It's Eat The Rich Month on IHIBILI and we're kicking things off with a movie that's more "Please don't eat the rich cause we're nice, actually" -- Emerald Fennell's Saltburn! We talk about gross-out scenes, a twist that's scarcely a twist, and how this movie lets everyone who isn't Oliver off the hook. Listen now!
🎉New episode! It's the final week of Action Movie Month, and we're talking about the 2011 Ryan Gosling movie DRIVE! It's a rare one where Jocelyn hates it and Kat loves it, y'all. Will their friendship survive? (Yes.) Listen now!
🎉New episode! Action Movie Month continues with one of the most ridiculous movies ever made — HIGHLANDER 2: THE QUICKENING! We discuss a baffling old man performance, an inexplicable… everything, and the worst cinematic use of “Amazing Grace” to date. Listen now!
🎉New episode! It's once again time for Action Movie Month, and we're kicking it off with 2002's EQUILIBRIUM, a VERY silly movie that also kind of rules? Come for the questionable "gun-kata" fight scenes, stay for the longing stares at the Mona Lisa and a puppy. Listen now!
🎉New episode! It’s the final week of Movie Musical Month and we’re discussing Bohemian Rhapsody! Kat and Jocelyn discuss endless montages, terrible teeth prosthetics, and Jocelyn makes Kat make a promise that she cannot or will not keep. Listen now!
🎉New episode! Musical Movie Month rages on with MUPPET TREASURE ISLAND! We talk about our favourite Muppets, discuss sub-par musical moments, and Kat roasts the hell out of Jocelyn's musical taste. Listen now!
Want to listen to us finally discuss THE GREATEST SHOWMAN? Well, only our Patreons members get to hear it (along with 80 other bonus episodes, plus ad-free regular episodes). So go join our Patreon now!
🎉 New episode! It's Movie Musical month once again, and we're kicking things off with 1980's XANADU! So, you're an artist struggling with inspiration? Never fear, here comes Olivia Newton-John on rollerskates to inspire you to... open a nightclub! Sure. Listen now!
🎉New episode! We’re wrapping up Romance Movie Month with Fried Green Tomatoes! We talk the world’s most fast paced plot, stuff from the book that didn’t get into the movie, and how much Kathy Bates rules. Listen now!
🎉New episode! We’re continuing Romance Movie Month with J.Lo’s music video/passion project/movie/thing, THIS IS ME...NOW. We talk about falsified histories, crump heart factories, and Ben Affleck doing improv. Listen now!
🎉New episode! Romance Movie Month continues, and we're talking about the best "wear a helmet and pay attention" PSA ever made, CITY OF ANGELS! We talk about how the true star of the film is Dennis Franz, how Nicolas Cage’s character is actually quite unsettling, and how being an angel seems mostly like being an agent from The Matrix franchise? Listen now!
🎉New episode! It’s Romantic Movie Month once again, and we’re talking about Sweet Home Alabama! We discuss how Reese Witherspoon can (almost) do no wrong, how this movie is surprisingly sad, and Jocelyn pitches a fashion line. Listen now!
🐍👀New episode! In the final week of '90s thriller month, Nic Cage is gonna Nic Cage in SNAKE EYES! They trick us with an incredible one shot scene at the start, and then it’s all mediocre from there. Carla Gugino tries to go incognito in a wig that’s brighter than the sun, and Gary Sinise gives us an underwhelming plot climax after their original one didn’t work out. Listen now!
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