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Many changes are occurring in and around our valley.

Whether you are a long term and full time resident, or a more recent part time transplant, these many changes and issues will effect us all. Growth, traffic and Sewage and water issues are a huge concern and have been limited largely to the north side of the valley, but there are now several developments proposed on the South side. Large developments that are in various stages of planning and appr

oval from the County. This venue is intended to serve as a non-partisan public community forum, providing citizens of Ogden Valley Utah a cyber focal point within which to discuss, debate and rant about any and all local governmental policies and issues in and around Huntsville, Eden and Liberty, Utah. Users are invited to visit, chat, argue, bicker, promote and co-ordinate political events, post, link and read articles, and whatever else -- so long as they observe a reasonable level of civility and decorum. For those folks new to blogging, consider this blog a cyber "letters-to-editor" venue, with a lot more of a free-wheeling attitude than you'll find in your hometown newspaper. If you want to put in your $.02, just post your own comments with the comments button. The comments interface is similar to the one you probably use for regular email. For those of you more familiar with the ways of the blogosphere, you already know the drill, so have at it and enjoy.

07/09/2024

🚧 Heads Up, Ogden! 🚧 Ogden Canyon will be closed Monday and Wednesday night!

SR-39 (Ogden Canyon) will be closed for construction work on Monday and Wednesday night, September 9th and 11th, from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m. Please plan ahead and use the alternate route of SR-167 (Trappers Loop) to I-84.

Thank you for your patience as we work to keep our roads safe!

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27/02/2024

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26/02/2024

Important Notice:

To All Receiving This Email:

Many thanks to all who sent emails to our Utah Senator (J. Johnson) and Representative (J. Kyle). We just learned that SB 252 left committee in the Senate, and still needs to be voted on by the Utah Senate and House of Representatives. And the current Utah Legislative session will adjourn this coming Friday, on March 1, 2024.

I am asking you to now send an email to all the Utah Legislative Senators and Representatives requesting to NOT vote for SB 252. I have attached a list of all the email addresses of the Utah Legislative Senators and Representatives, so it should be easy to just copy and paste the email addresses into your email. Feel free to use the sample text provided in the email below and whatever else you may want to say.

The situation with SB 252 is getting serious, and if passed, will likely make it impossible for Ogden Valley and other Utah communities to incorporate.

Please, your help is desperately needed, and feel free to forward this information to others who support incorporating Ogden Valley.

Many thanks,
Jan Fullmer

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Jan Fullmer
To: Jan Fullmer
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 10:57:39 AM MST
Subject: RE: Request for IMMEDIATE HELP - Update

To All Receiving this Email:

The situation is a bit more serious if SB 252 passes - it could kill our entire Ogden Valley Incorporation initiative.

It is highly unlikely that any community could have 10% more revenues than expenses from the output of a Feasibility Study. That's nearly an impossible threshold to meet. Not only will this bill kill Ogden Valley's attempt to incorporate, but it would probably make it nearly impossible for unincorporated Utah communities to pursue incorporation from this point forward.

A special thank you to all who have already sent their emails to Senator Johnson and Representative Kyle.

Jan Fullmer
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Jan Fullmer
To: Jan Fullmer
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 08:46:44 AM MST
Subject: Request for IMMEDIATE HELP

To all receiving this email:

The incorporation team just got word of SB 252 (Senate Bill 252) which is going to go up for a Utah Legislature vote. If SB 252 passes, our Ogden Valley Incorporation effort will be significantly delayed by at least 1 - 2 years. The bill changes some of the requirements for the Feasibility Study that was just completed for Ogden Valley Incorporation and presented to the Ogden Valley Community by the Lt. Governor's office on 1/30/2024.

Your help is needed to flood our state representatives with emails right now, and your help will be very much appreciated.

Some background information on SB 252 is provided below, as well as the email addresses for the State Senator and State Representative representing Ogden Valley, and some sample text (kept simple) to consider for your email. If you live in Ogden Valley, please be sure to include your address. We can only speculate why this bill has been proposed at such a late time in the Utah Legislative session.

PLEASE, help! Thank you,
Jan Fullmer
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Senator Daniel McCay is sponsoring Utah SB 252 which will retroactively require that feasibility studies need to prove that a community’s revenues over expenses are greater than 10%. The current law that we’re operating under requires only 5% surplus (which we exceeded – but not the 10% bar). This bill is clearly designed to target communities like ours that are currently going through the incorporation effort.
We need to have our legislators oppose this measure immediately – the legislative session is nearing it’s close, so this is of utmost importance.
Please send your representatives a short (5 to 7 sentence) email asking them not to support this bill. And if you live in Ogden Valley, please include your home address with the letter.

The Utah Legislative representatives for Ogden Valley are:
John Johnson, Senator [email protected]
Jason Kyle, Representative [email protected]
Here is sample wording to consider for your email:
Please do NOT support SB 252. You are Utah Legislature representatives for Ogden Valley and we have been involved in the incorporation process for almost 2 years. The first required public meeting held by the Lt. Governor's office on 1/30/2024 showed incredible support for incorporation from the Ogden Valley community.

Our feasibility study has been completed and has shown that we meet the requirements of the current law
SB 252 appears to be designed to remove our legal and constitutional right to proceed with the incorporation effort and vote to become a city
Please represent the wishes of the majority of the residents of Ogden Valley by not supporting SB 252

12/12/2023

From the Ogden Valley News

Weber County Commissioners Defy Community: Vote to Approve Eden Crossing Action Items

By Shanna Francis

A large crowd assembled in the County Commission Chambers at the Weber Center in Ogden on the evening of December 5—most of them wearing red—to show their opposition to two county commission agenda items that were being considered at a Weber County Commission meeting. The items were connected to the controversial development plans called Eden Crossing, which is being proposed by long-time Eden developer John Lewis who moved to Eden from California with many of his extended family to set up a long-term development company in the Valley after graduating in the field. To date, Lewis had developed numerous subdivisions across the Valley; however, primarily in Eden. One of his first subdivision being Fairway Oaks, located directly north of Patio Springs subdivision in Eden. Another early development was Moose Hollow, located near Wolf Creek Resort, which was promoted as “affordable housing.”

The two action items on the December 5 agenda included:

1. Action on an ordinance to amend the street regulating plan for New Town Eden and Old Town Eden (even though it is alleged that a street-regulating plan was never legally adopted for New Town Eden) and a proposed amendment to the architectural theme requirements and standard of the form-based zone to allow a wider range of style options.

2. Action on an ordinance to amend the Weber County Zoning map, rezoning and possible development agreement on approximately 20 acres of land at approximately 5204 East Highway 166 in Eden from the AV-3 (agricultural) zone to the form-based zone. This parcel is accessed off of 166 about halfway between Eden’s Valley Market and Carlos and Harley’s.

A public hearing was held to take comments for and against the two proposed actions. In a last-minute notice, however, distributed by the Weber County Commission office, it was announced that the county would only take ten comments in favor of the proposed action items and ten comments against them. In addition, it was announced that each speaker would only have three minutes to express their views. Also, speakers were required to sign up to speak 15 minutes prior to the beginning of the public hearing on a sign-up sheet inside the chambers. This meant that those participating by Zoom were not able to sign-up and be heard.

Once the meeting began, a sea of red began filling the commission chambers to overflowing, with most of those attending wearing red as an indication of their strong disapproval of the proposed Eden Crossing proposals. So many attended, some had to stand outside the meeting room behind glass windows. Even families with young children attended with kids in tow. According to one count, 275 attended the meeting in person with another 140 attending online. Clearly, those against the proposed actions were in the majority, which was indicated by the overwhelming amount of red attire, which represented the desire to stop the high-density development that is being proposed in the middle of an agriculturally zoned area surrounded by single-family homes.

Because of the limitation on public input, some of the ten speakers wanting to express their views against the proposals, yielded their three minutes to two acting attorneys representing a large group opposing the street-regulating plan and rezone, the attorney’s being financed primarily by a variety of community members from within and outside of Ogden Valley.

Speakers in favor of and against the proposed actions were alternately allowed to express their views. While the crowd was full of people ready and wanting to speak against the proposed actions, apparently, speakers in favor of the proposed changes were a bit more difficult to come by, as two of the ten included both the mother and father of one of the applicants. Also, long-time Gage Froerer supporter Laura Warburton and her husband Bruce expressed their support, and even an employee or contractor for the petitioner.

Ultimately, despite the overwhelming public sentiment against the rezone and new street-regulating plan, the commissioners voted against the people in favor of the petitioner. On the first item, on the amendment to the street-regulating plan, all three commissioners—Sharon Bolos, Gage Froerer, and Jim Harvey—voted in favor of it. On the second vote, on the rezone, Bolos voted against it with Froerer and Harvey voting in favor of it.

While the commissioners approved the action items, another first hurdle Eden Crossing petitioners had to overcome so they could move forward with initial plans—a high-rise hotel, condos, and a shopping plaza—many challenges still remain: a slowing economy, legal challenges, overwhelming public antagonism toward the project, inflation and the rising prices to complete an already-begun sewer project that was counting on the approval of the rezone (the commissioners approved federal ARPA funds to help finance a new sewer line for the petitioner that took a detour to accommodate the Eden Crossing rezone, even before the commissioners approved the rezone), no secured water rights to serve the development being proposed, no approved sewer district or treatment facility to treat the sewer that the high-density development would generate, and the possible incorporation of Ogden Valley that could take place in less than a year that would require the developer to deal with new city leaders to complete their proposed project who may not be as accommodating as the current county commission has been. Clearly, there remains, many more Eden bridges to cross before Eden Crossing’s hurdles can be bridged.

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