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26/07/2024
24/07/2024
Julia Cowley, The Consult: "To Shirley and Roger's family and friends, don't give up hope. Someday, the police will be k...
17/07/2024

Julia Cowley, The Consult: "To Shirley and Roger's family and friends, don't give up hope. Someday, the police will be knocking on the offender's door."

First, a huge thanks to the panel of FBI analysts who covered this case. Much appreciated! Here's a summary I jotted down of their offender profile in this case.

⁃ Likely a single offender; they saw no evidence to suggest otherwise
⁃ Shirley may have been sexually assaulted by the perpetrator.
⁃ Offender is familiar with the area, probably lives or has lived in the area and been to the cemetery before, knew Shirley would go there;
- Likely known to carry a knife;
⁃ Offender's relationships with women would be “characterized by jealousy, excessive control; may have been violent in the past; may have been violent with intimate partners; explosive temper that other intimate partners could probably testify to; controlling;
⁃ They “wouldn’t be surprised if other romantic partners or rivals have had their tires slashed by this offender
⁃ Possible history of domestic violence (and/or jealous and controlling in intimate relationships) and vandalism
⁃ The offender may have sustained injuries to himself, possibly to his hands, given the viciousness of the knife attack
⁃ Possible post-offense behavior: change in their schedule; could have left town abruptly; may not have been at work the next day or the next few days (particularly if they had telltale injuries);
⁃ Change in vehicle after the offense;
⁃ Extreme interest in case - or the opposite, not wanting to engage in conversations about it;
⁃ Distancing themselves from Shirley in how the offender talks about her: “I dated her a long time ago” or “I remember her, but not well”; tries to minimize their relationship;

People who knew Shirley might ask themselves if they know:

⁃ Was there anyone who made her feel uncomfortable?
⁃ Did she mention any uninvited/unwanted attention by anyone in particular?

Any locals at the time know any guys who might have slashed the tires of a girlfriend or romantic rival, or anyone in retaliation for something?

To anyone who knew (or dated) someone that Shirley dated, and might have had similar experiences to that described above, please contact the Sumter County Sheriff's Office at 352-569-1600 or Crimeline at 1-800-423-TIPS.

Part 2 of The Consult’s analysis of the Shirley Whitten & Roger Higgins case.
17/07/2024

Part 2 of The Consult’s analysis of the Shirley Whitten & Roger Higgins case.

‎Show The Consult: Real FBI Profilers, Ep The Oak Grove Cemetery Murders – Part 2 - Jul 17, 2024

12/07/2024
10/07/2024

On January 12, 1993, skeletal remains were discovered in a wooded area at the northeast corner of Heather Road and Dennis Avenue in Orlando. The victim was determined to be a white male, and the manner of death was ruled a homicide due to a gunshot wound to the head. Despite extensive efforts, the identity of the victim remained unknown for nearly three decades.

Through advancements in genetic genealogy and our collaboration with Othram Labs, we have recently identified the victim as 48-year-old Greg Carpenter. Greg was last seen alive on December 26, 1992, and was reported missing to the Orlando Police Department the same day.

We are seeking the public's help to solve this case. If you knew Greg Carpenter or have any information about his life or the circumstances surrounding his death, please contact the Orange County Sheriff's Office Cold Case Unit at (407) 836-4357 or Crimeline at 800-423-TIPS (8477).

Your information could be crucial in bringing justice to Greg and closure to his family.

LARRY ROUGEUX - For those interested in reading about some of the players in the organized crime angle involving Sam Cag...
10/07/2024

LARRY ROUGEUX - For those interested in reading about some of the players in the organized crime angle involving Sam Cagnina, Harlan Blackburn, and Clyde Lee, which I discussed in Season 23, here are a bunch of articles you can check out.

Shirley Whitten and Roger Higgins
10/07/2024

Shirley Whitten and Roger Higgins

‎Show The Consult: Real FBI Profilers, Ep The Oak Grove Cemetery Murders – Part 1 - Jul 9, 2024

For those of you who might be interested, a group of retired FBI Behavioral Analysts have looked at the double homicide ...
10/07/2024

For those of you who might be interested, a group of retired FBI Behavioral Analysts have looked at the double homicide case of Shirley Whitten and Roger Higgins at my request. They are currently covering it on The Consult, another podcast. It's a great panel of professional criminal profilers and I'm so grateful they've taken the time. Here's a link to the first episode if you are interested.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-consult-real-fbi-profilers/id1586909557?i=1000661760322

Information is power. 🇺🇸
04/07/2024

Information is power. 🇺🇸

Episode 4 is available now.
02/07/2024

Episode 4 is available now.

‎Show Down & Away, Ep 4- Donna - Jul 1, 2024

This case is similar to Larry Rougeux’s case.
01/07/2024

This case is similar to Larry Rougeux’s case.

Orange County Sheriff's Office Teams with Othram to Identify a 1993 Homicide Victim

Season 23: Who Killed Larry Rougeux?I mentioned a "deathbed visit" that Larry Rougeux was suppopsedly taken to in 1977. ...
29/06/2024

Season 23: Who Killed Larry Rougeux?
I mentioned a "deathbed visit" that Larry Rougeux was suppopsedly taken to in 1977. He was in a Brevard County detention facility at the time, and Orange County Sheriff's Dept. picked him up. But neither of his grandmothers died in 1977. Bessie Rougeux died in 1985. His mom's mom had already died. I spoke with another of Bessie's grandchildren and they had never heard of Bessie being on her death bed. So where was the Orange County Sheriff's office taking Larry Rougeux?

28/06/2024

The first two episodes of Season 22 are up. I devoted the whole second episode to The Florida School for Boys, also called The Dozier School because I think it was likely seminal moment number two for Larry Rougeux. It was an abusive place - so abusive just recently, the HB 21 was signed by Governor DeSantis. $20 million in compensation will be divided between those who attended the Arthur G. Dozier School for Boys in North Florida between 1940 and 1975, as well as the Okeechobee School, another state-based institution known for its abusive nature. https://floridaphoenix.com/2024/06/21/desantis-signs-bill-that-will-provide-20-million-in-compensation-to-dozier-school-for-boys-victims/ #:~:text=The%20law%20(HB%2021)%20signed,known%20for%20its%20abusive%20nature.

SEASON 23 STARTS NOW.His body was found in a wooded area next to the Calibre Bend Apartments in Orlando Florida in 2000,...
27/06/2024

SEASON 23 STARTS NOW.

His body was found in a wooded area next to the Calibre Bend Apartments in Orlando Florida in 2000, but Paul Lawrence "Larry" Rougeux wasn't identified until early 2024. It is believed that he was killed around 1992-1993. There is very little known about his whereabouts in the ten years leading up to his death. A homicide case intersects with genetic genealogy, and the far-reaching impacts of that are explored in this five-part series.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-away/id1329623611?i=1000660481021

If you have any information that could help solve the murder of Larry Rougeux, please call Crimeline at 800-423-TIPS. That’s 800-423-8477.

You can find my personal page here: https://www.facebook.com/jeni.decker

You can contact me at: [email protected]

‎Show Down & Away, Ep Larry Rougeux - Jun 27, 2024

Orange County Sheriff's Office & FBI Teams with Othram to Identify a 2003 Homicide Victim
20/06/2024

Orange County Sheriff's Office & FBI Teams with Othram to Identify a 2003 Homicide Victim

Orange County Sheriff's Office & FBI Teams with Othram to Identify a 2003 Homicide Victim

11/06/2024

On July 1st, you can look forward to listening to a never-before-released podcast from the original Suwannee Valley Unsolved production.

Years ago, we started out as just a podcast, but our mission evolved to supporting and advocating for families in need. While our commitment to local families prevented us from finishing the podcast, we realized that we had completed the first episode, which focused on the murder of Mark Brotherton, a Standard Oil Service Station owner who was killed during a robbery in Lake City in 1971. The case remains the oldest cold case in Columbia County and the Suwannee River Valley.

In this special release, formerly part of the "Murdered on the Night Shift" series, we delve into the life of Mark Brotherton, from his time as a farmer, WWII veteran, and retiree of the JEA in Jacksonville, to his move to Lake City and his tragic death. We also share previously unreleased details about the ongoing quest for Mark’s killers, including interviews with Laura Brotherton, Mark’s daughter, and Lt. Jimmy Watson, previously a sergeant with the Columbia County Sheriff's Office, both conducted in 2021.

Additionally, the episode will feature the original foreword by First Coast News’ Katie Jeffries, also recorded in 2021.

To ensure its longevity as part of Columbia County History, we plan to donate a physical copy to the Columbia County Historical Museum in an effort to preserve the case as part of Lake City/Columbia County history.

Get ready for the release on July 1st on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, and Facebook! We are grateful to Jeni Decker for her assistance in completing this project.

Columbia County Sheriff's Office Lake City-Columbia County Historical Museum Laura Brotherton Collins

WHO KILLED LARRY ROUGEUX? I was able to get a (somewhat) better picture of Larry Rougeux from a document request, but th...
04/06/2024

WHO KILLED LARRY ROUGEUX?

I was able to get a (somewhat) better picture of Larry Rougeux from a document request, but this was in 1976. I was told he wore a mustache at points, as well. Law enforcement believes he was killed in the early 1990s. But I, and I'm sure they, are still trying to locate people who might have interacted with Larry between the early 1980s and 1990s and known where he was living, who he was hanging out with, where he worked, in order to establish who may have killed him.

I'll link the video that OCSO prepared for a summary of his case. I'm still actively researching and preparing this series of episodes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggNHSs9YTxQ

Happy Mother’s Day to all mothers, but especially those who are still searching for answers and justice, today.
12/05/2024

Happy Mother’s Day to all mothers, but especially those who are still searching for answers and justice, today.

Had a great interview today with Jen Moslek of findingflorida.blog. She's done extensive research into the Florida Schoo...
07/05/2024

Had a great interview today with Jen Moslek of findingflorida.blog. She's done extensive research into the Florida School for Boys/Dozier school, and we talked about what it would have been like during the time that Larry Rougeux would have been there. You'll hear that interview when I publish the episodes for next season.

I've also heard back from the Florida Department of Corrections on some documents I'd requested, those are now paid for and they're putting together my request. I'm hoping for some mug shots because of the lack of images of Larry out there right now. People I've spoken to say it would be hard for someone with information about him in the 80s - 90s to know who that was from the photos being circulated. I don't like mug shots being the only images out for a victim when I'm seeking information, but in this case, it may be a last resort, because the best photo family was able to come up with was from when he was quite young.

There are currently 185 boys that have been identified as missing under suspicious circumstances. While we may never know what became of these kids, it can only help to get their names out there.

I ran across this story while researching next season, simply because one of the home addresses I was checking into was ...
07/05/2024

I ran across this story while researching next season, simply because one of the home addresses I was checking into was owned by someone who was named briefly in one of these articles. Since the topic of ABORTION is as timely now as it has ever been, I figured I’d share a blast from the past.

*The Sting*

One afternoon in August of 1961, a couple met up with JERRY LEE NATIONS who was part owner and sometimes manager of Johnny Bremer Pizza, on Colonial Drive in Orlando, Florida.

The couple was Mrs. Dorothy Yohn, billed as an “unwed girl in trouble” accompanied by the kind young gent who’d got her there, played by Patrolman William Robinson.

The parties were introduced by Mrs. Margaret Mount, essentially a go-between.

Jerry Lee Nations was a private investigator by day, abortionist by appointment, and heavily favored in news coverage as handsome, despite the charges. He was an eclectic guy who’d grown up in the area. He had a monkey that got loose a few years earlier, and the local paper reported on its escapades. Nations had also managed a water ballet team that performed at one of the local swanky hotels.
Unbeknownst to Nations, the couple he was about to service was a cop and the wife of a Orlando Police department Lieutenant, and he was about to be the target of a sting operation.

At the pizza joint, Jerry Lee Nations assured the prospective patient that he was “experienced in abortions” and told her there was nothing to worry about. He’d give her a little shot, it would cause her to dilate, and she’d abort in a couple days. The PI problem solver mentioned that he usually had access to a couple of local doctor’s offices, but because this was such short notice, they’d have to take care of business at his office, directly behind the pizza joint, which was, perhaps, a bit less gynecological in tone than one would hope for such a medical procedure.

The group, sans Mrs. Mount, who apparently had better things to do, headed around back for their “appointment.”

On the stand, Mrs. Yohn, the cop’s wife who was playing the part of pregnant woman, described the place as very cluttered and dirty, with a drafting table, couch, a desk, and stuffed chair. She said Nations went into the other room and came back with a blue suitcase containing leg stirrups, a pillow, quilt, a pan, and a briefcase containing a syringe and vial of liquid.

When she asked if he was a doctor, Nations told her he had medical experience and had been training for years.

“There’s nothing to it,” Nations said, confidently. “I’ve done it many, many times.”

While he unpacked his handy dandy abortion kit, the “doctor” and his guests discussed the price. He asked for $500, a pretty penny in 1961. They said they only had $300 but could get him the rest when the bank opened the next day. Nations agreed and told them that the ever-helpful Mrs. Mount would be happy to pick up the balance. The “doctor” then gave her some red pills to take in case she started hemorrhaging.

Here's where I want you to imagine yourself in the scenario; a cramped little room behind a pizza joint, close enough to the actual pizza ovens that you could probably smell the garlic wafting across the parking lot.

Nations took out a cotton swab and squirted some alcohol on it, then swabbed the woman’s arm.

Now, if that’s me, and I’d volunteered for this little shindig, with my cop husband’s approval, I’m probably wondering how far I’m supposed to take this charade before someone yells uncle. I feel like a fake doctor looming over me with the needle an inch from my arm might be cutting it a bit close…but that’s just me.

To prove that maybe this endeavor wasn’t planned as well as one might hope if you’re the one looking down the business end of a hypodermic needle, the male cop in this acting duo suddenly said he needed some air. He asked Nations to unlock the door so he could step outside and catch his breath.

Nations complied, the cop playing the husband role walked out, and Nations proceeded to inject Mrs. Yohn with that needle full of abortion serum.

I picture the cop outside flailing his arms wildly at his cohorts in apprehension, because I presume he wasn’t wearing a walkie talkie for quick communication, and he was doing something a little more physically stringent than a come-hither motion.

Meanwhile, Mrs. Yohn is inside with the fake doctor doing the heavy lifting – and I think it’s probably fair to mention here that women will always have to do the heavy lifting when it comes to abortion, just as they must figuratively and literally do the heavy lifting when it comes to growing and birthing a baby. If abortion is illegal, women will still get abortions. Some won’t. Some will be forced into an unwanted pregnancy and all that implies, and for the life of me I cannot understand why anyone of sound mind would want that to happen.

The reporters really buried the lede here, too.

‘What’s in the vial?’ I found my inner monologue gasping with as much horror as Brad Pitt in the psychological thriller Seven, asking ‘What was in the box?’

Nations wasn’t the only one on the hook. The pretty, raven-haired Mrs. Mount, a 29-year-old mother of two, was also brought up on charges. She pled guilty and, through tears, testified that she’d worked with Nations for several months leading up to this incident and had also done some detective work assignments for him. She told the court that Nations would get $300 for an abortion and she and another contact person would split the rest.

While Nations and his cohorts had been under surveillance for seven months, the man himself testified that he learned how to perform these procedures from a former Orlando doctor named Bradford Carson White, having watched Dr. White perform abortions at the physician’s office before he began trying them on his own using Dr. White’s instruments.

Nations alleged that the doctor received a cut from the fees he charged his female clients.

Judge Cooper wondered aloud in open court why neither the County Solicitor, the defense attorney, or the Orlando Police Department who’d led the raid had come forth with any allegations related to the 35-year-old doctor, and ordered Florida’s Parole and Probation Commission to bring the doctor to Orlando from his home in Fernandina Beach so they could get to the bottom of it.

Dr. White had left a lucrative practice in Orlando earlier the same year, headed for Fernandina Beach, after being placed on two-year probation in criminal court on a reckless driving charge.

For his part, the Doctor flatly denied Nation’s accusations.

“I knew Jerry and had some business dealings with him, but certainly not along those lines. It’s absolutely ridiculous. He’s out of his mind.”

He said he’d once negotiated with Nations to buy a medical building he owned but dropped that deal “when this thing broke.”

What, you might be asking, was a private investigator doing owning the Central Florida Medical Center Bldg. on Mills Street in Orlando? Good question. It was but one of many questions that never got answered in the newspaper accounts.

Lt. William Yohn of the Orlando Police Department – husband to the faux pregnant woman involved in the sting operation - testified that his department had Nations under surveillance for some time and that he frequently visited Dr. White’s office, but “we had not quite reached the point in our investigation where we could question Dr. White.”

During the testimony, several women that Nations performed “abortive operations” on had testified, though it was never clear via the reports whether these were all chemical type abortions, or if any more invasive procedures were involved.

One assumes the need for stirrups attached to a drafting board indicates a more troubling answer.

Yet another unanswered but significant detail.

The handsome Jerry Lee Nations was eventually convicted on abortion charges and given just shy of a 7-year sentence. He would later plead guilty to 5 more charges that seemed to precipitate him becoming the key witness in the Doctor’s trial. While on the stand Nations testified that he’d performed more than 30 abortions, some at his office behind the pizza joint, and some at the doctor’s office.

Nations testified that he and the doctor had known one another since around 1959 when he went to him for a physical examination related to insurance coverage. They got to talking about how abortions would be a good way to make some money and, well, you know how it is? If there’s a way to make money of a woman’s misery, there’s a man, or doctor, or both, out there ready to exploit it.

Margaret Lou Mount and one more individual both pled guilty to their involvement and were each given seven-year probation sentences.

No word on exactly how many women fell victim to the fake doctor slash private investigator and his six-foot drafting board with leg stirrups mounted on either side – but it’s rarely about the women, is it?

The Florida School for Boys, also known as the Arthur G. Dozier School for Boys was a reform school operated by the stat...
01/05/2024

The Florida School for Boys, also known as the Arthur G. Dozier School for Boys was a reform school operated by the state of Florida in Marianna from January 1, 1900, to June 30, 2011. It was "investigated" multiple times over the years for violent abuses toward the boys sent there, often for very minor infractions. Larry Rougeux Jr. was one of those boys sentenced to this school. I am currently working with Tallahassee to get his records from his time there. There were two campuses, one opened in Okeechobee in 1955, and my contact is scouring the records for both, because it is unclear at which location Larry spent his sentence. For a time, it was the largest juvenile reform institution in the United States, and there is currently a bill working its way thorough the Florida legislature related to the school and the investigation into the abuses.

It goes without saying that any images you find online of the institution are purely PR, meant to quell questions about their operations and the countless stories of abuse by those who were sent there.

I believe there were a couple things in Larry's early life that became seminal moments, and would likely color everything that was to follow. Being sent to the Florida School for Boys was one of those things. I will be interviewing a woman who has spent the last decade researching the Florida School for Boys, who's spent time with the survivors, and has spoken to men who were in the institution around the same time Larry was. You will hear that interview when I release the next season, which I am still in the thick of researching.

27/04/2024

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