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Ex-Torah Observant / Ex-Hebrew Roots Stories of those who escaped the Torah Observant / Hebrew Roots movement

21/08/2023

Welcome! This page is dedicated to people who fully escaped the mythology of Christianity and Judaism, but spent some time in the Torah Observant / Hebrew Roots movement first, before doing a more thorough investigation of the mythology woven into the Old and New Testaments, realizing that the OT prophesies were not about Jesus, escaping from all of it, and starting their lives over -- free from a mythology-based worldview.

Today I spoke with Justin Best, who grew up in the Southern Baptist and Presbyterian denominations, moved into the Torah...
21/08/2023

Today I spoke with Justin Best, who grew up in the Southern Baptist and Presbyterian denominations, moved into the Torah Observant / Hebrew Roots movement, but ultimately deconverted as he investigated the truth claims and origins of Christianity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uKlIg6Hecg

We discussed many topics, including:

• Growing up in the Southern Baptist denomination and then moving to a more Presbyterian and Calvinistic perspective.
• Feeling the intense pressure of his actions having the ability to directly affect other people's eternal condition.
• Getting saved early in life but rededicating his life many times to be sure he was truly saved, especially in light of the contrasting messages of Paul's message of "faith alone" and James' message of "faith plus works."
• Becoming extremely passionate and zealous, even to an "OCD" level, about pursuing god, the Bible, the Gospel, and things that would further the kingdom.
• Going through an existential crisis as a result of what he experienced as a Marine in the Iraq War.
• Moving into the Hebrew Roots movement as he became convinced that Jesus and his disciples followed the Torah during Jesus' life and after he ascended.
• Realizing that the apostle Paul taught against the Torah, repeatedly and consistently, and seeing Paul as a false teacher who is frequently fighting with and mocking the very men who had supposedly walked with Jesus.
• Realizing that the text of the Bible had been extensively corrupted.
• Understanding that the "chain of custody" of the actual "Word of god" has been entirely non-existent for much of history.
• The bizarre dynamic of Christians accepting that the text and the canon have been heavily altered and edited for millennia, but in their minds, no such changes are allowed anymore.
• Realizing that the Old Testament "prophecies" about Jesus are not about Jesus at all.
• Learning about the mythological origins of the Jesus and Yahweh characters.
• Receiving very hateful messages from Christians upon deconverting.
• Post deconversion, getting professional counseling and focusing on self care, self love, healing from narcissistic abuse, mindfulness, and meditation.

Unending thanks to Justin for sharing his story and for his platform!

Today I spoke with Kelsey Gallert, who grew up in a mainstream Evangelical and Pentecostal environment, but as an adult ...
21/08/2023

Today I spoke with Kelsey Gallert, who grew up in a mainstream Evangelical and Pentecostal environment, but as an adult moved through Independent Fundamental Baptist and Torah Observance / Hebrew roots perspectives before ultimately deconverting as she investigated the mythological origins of Christianity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-xywBt3HGk

We discussed many topics, including:

• Watching people in church being "slain in the spirit."
• Intensely hungering for the Spirit and being concerned about people around her who didn't share that hunger.
• Feeling the struggle to maintain a strong "mountaintop experience" in daily life.
• Sensing that the Yahweh character was sending her personal messages and life direction through her private devotions and prayer life.
• "Pleading the blood" for protection and victory in various life situations.
• Hearing strong preaching about her being profoundly wicked, to the point that she questioned her previous professions of faith in Jesus.
• Realizing that other religions were acting out the same way as Pentecostals do.
• Fearing the Rapture / Tribulation and being left behind.
• Being drawn into the Hebrew Roots movement.
• Feeling like the truth was too hard to find, as if the god character was intentionally making it difficult to find the truth, despite her sincere devotion to him.
• Realizing that Jesus is a copy of demigods like Dionysius and Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus is based on Euripides' Bacchae.
• Concluding that human sacrifice blood magic atonement is not reality.
• Realizing that instead of trusting god this whole time, we've actually just been trusting a bunch of unknown dead men who concocted and evolved Judaism and Christianity.
• Admitting that the Yahweh character was portrayed as psychopathic and at the same time that we were trained to love him and gladly obey him.
• Understanding that for many years the most important person in our lives was imaginary, leaving us free to connect with and love the real people in our lives.
• Realizing that she had felt that she used to have an imaginary friend near her, but that after deconversion, the imaginary friend was no longer there.
• Experiencing much more peace after deconversion.
• The importance of imparting a secular morality to the next generation.
• The struggle to not give into the existential OCD that can occur when we lose the Christian worldview and seek to give our lives meaning and purpose.
• Dealing with the post-deconversion anger of how the proponents of Christianity broke our hearts, stole time from our lives, and lied to us about its origins.

Many thanks to Kelsey for sharing her story!

Today I spoke with Deborah Grace, who grew up in an evangelical church environment and then got involved with the Hebrew...
21/08/2023

Today I spoke with Deborah Grace, who grew up in an evangelical church environment and then got involved with the Hebrew Roots movement, before ultimately facing the discrepancies of the Bible and its origins, which led her to deconvert from Christianity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WaPvS_eD8E

As we talked through her story and her recent book, Crucifying the Bible, we touched on many topics, including:

• Being concerned about the validity of our earlier professions of faith, so much that we felt the need to re-confess our faith in the Jesus character and even to get re-baptized, repeatedly, because there is so much at stake.
• How our trust of our parents -- especially if they are exceptionally honest and good people -- leads us to believe that their worldview must be accurate.
• How the Christian worldview becomes pervasive and all-encompassing.
• The Christian push to outbreed the pagans through a Quiverfull mentality.
• The selective supremacy of certain people in the Bible and Christendom.
• How Christianity sets you up to never remotely question the ultimate truth of that worldview.
• The bizarre dynamic of thinking the Yahweh character is not a god of confusion, and that the holy spirit character is leading people into truth, and yet there are endless interpretations of every single verse and theological point.
• How the end times and Apocalypse/Rapture/Tribulation concepts are used to scare people into believing, and how those fear tactics often create immense trauma in people.
• The strange experience of realizing that Christianity is a cult, just as bizarre as all the other groups we previously called a "cult."
• The experience of getting pulled into the Hebrew Roots movement, as a means of experiencing being "grafted in" to Israel, to honor the eternal Levitical priesthood, and to see the Bible as more of a single cohesive message from god.
• The strange mindset of the Yahweh character, who is made to focus on what kind of clothes his people wear and what kind of food they eat, but he is silent about genocide, child r**e, etc.
• How Christians treat you as a traitor, both when you switch denominations, and much more so when you claim the Yahweh and Jesus characters aren't real and that the Bible is not divine.
• The traumatic experience and true grieving process of deconstruction and deconversion, as you realize reality has nothing to do with the worldview espoused by Christianity or the Bible.
• How Christians will often mistreat or shun you if you deconvert, as they brand you a severe traitor and live out the saying, "There's no hate like Christian love," demonstrating how shallow the relationship really was since it was based on mythology.
• The urgency of exposing the discrepancies and mythology of Judaism and Christianity, especially in light of Christian nationalism.
• How Christianity causes you to "second guess" yourself constantly.
• The bizarre and disgusting dynamics of blood magic that are woven into the core of Judaism and Christianity.
• How Christianity teaches you to not trust yourself and to not see yourself as your own, but as belonging to the Yahweh and Jesus characters.
• How the Bible employs psychological and mind control tactics to ensure submission, conformity, and fear.
• How Christians refuse to share with their congregations the origins and evolution of the Yahweh character, along with his wife Asherah and father Elyon.
• The frightening power of brainwashing to totally overwhelm the thought processes of Christians.
• How terrorizing it is to Christians to admit the huge cracks in their worldview, exposing why they cannot honestly face the facts about the origins of their cult.
• The absurd arguments and wrangling Christians use to try to defend their worldview.
• The bizarre dynamics of church councils taking hundreds of years to vote on the canon, and books floating in and out of favor with the church councils.
• How the peace after deconversion is much greater than the pretend peace of Christianity.

Thanks to Deborah for sharing her story and for all the research and deep thought she put into her book.

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