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Dan Dan's Big Book Study Podcast Dan takes us through the first 164 Big Book pages of Alcoholics Anonymous sharing his experience, st

Hello everybody..I created a virtual recovery coach named Orbie. Let's train him right in the AA way.Just ask Orbie ques...
06/05/2024

Hello everybody..

I created a virtual recovery coach named Orbie. Let's train him right in the AA way.

Just ask Orbie questions about recovery in Alcoholics Anonymous and therapy models like cognitive behavioral therapy EVEN alanon.

And anything else you might be able to think of.

 # # The Golden KeyInspired by Emmet FoxThe Golden Key is a simple but powerful technique that can help you overcome any...
05/11/2023

# # The Golden Key
Inspired by Emmet Fox

The Golden Key is a simple but powerful technique that can help you overcome any problem, including alcoholism. Here's how it works:

1. **Stop thinking about the problem.** Instead of focusing on your addiction and the negative consequences it has brought into your life, shift your attention to something positive. This could be a happy memory, a beautiful scene in nature, or a spiritual concept that resonates with you.

2. **Focus on the positive.** Once you have found something positive to focus on, hold it in your mind and let it fill you with positive emotions. Feel the joy, peace, and love that come with this positive experience.

3. **Let go of the problem.** As you focus on the positive, let go of your addiction and the negative thoughts and emotions associated with it. Imagine yourself free from the grip of addiction and living a happy, healthy life.

By following these three steps, you can use the Golden Key to shift your focus from the problem of alcoholism to the solution of recovery. This approach can help you tap into your inner strength and motivation for change, which are essential for overcoming addiction.

But the Golden Key is not a magic solution that will work overnight. It requires practice and persistence to master. You may need to use it many times a day, especially when you feel tempted to drink or when you face challenges in your recovery journey.

Remember that you are not alone in your struggle with alcoholism. There are many recovering alcoholics who have used the Golden Key approach to achieve sobriety and build a fulfilling life in recovery. You can find support and inspiration from them, as well as from the many resources available to help you on your journey.

In conclusion, the Golden Key is a valuable tool for recovering alcoholics who want to break free from addiction and live a happy, healthy life. By focusing on the positive and letting go of the problem, you can tap into your inner strength and motivation for change, and achieve lasting recovery.

05/11/2023
From the SARCASTIC BIG BOOK by Clay E.https://sarcasticbigbook.comMeetings are a great place to judge people. And becaus...
02/08/2023

From the SARCASTIC BIG BOOK by Clay E.
https://sarcasticbigbook.com

Meetings are a great place to judge people. And because of something called the Traditions, attacking a meeting is not unlike punching a blindfolded child from behind. It cannot defend itself or fight back. So we take comfort in that, and, momentarily, lift ourselves up a little simply by looking down at others in the room trying to better themselves. Besides, it is smart to go somewhere in order to receive free help, reject that help, and then criticize all of it. That just makes perfect sense.

The Story of How Thousands of Well-Intentioned Men and Women Have Totally Screwed Up The Original Message

From The Big Book Comes Alive page..How FAST should the newcomer be taken through the Twelve Steps?One of the key concep...
24/04/2023

From The Big Book Comes Alive page..

How FAST should the newcomer be taken through the Twelve Steps?
One of the key concepts of A.A. in the 1940's: Get the newcomer to Step Twelve as quickly as possible, so he or she can experience the life-changing spiritual awakening that occurs as the direct result of taking the Steps. Assure the newcomer that our program of recovery will relieve his or her alcoholism. Show the newcomer that the process is simple, straightforward and that it really works.
Earl Treat founder of A.A. in Chicago "wished that every A.A. could have the benefit of this type of sponsorship today". In his story, "He Sold Himself Short" (p. 287 in 2nd and 3rd editions and p. 258 in 4th edition.) he explains how he was taken through the Steps.
"The day before I was due to go back to Chicago, a Wednesday and Dr. Bob's afternoon off, he had me down to the office, and we spent three or four hours formally going through the Six-Step program as it was at that time. The six steps were:"
1. Complete deflation. (Step 1)
2. Dependence and guidance from a Higher Power. (Steps 2, 3, 6, 7, 11)
3. Moral Inventory. (Steps 4, 10)
4. Confession. (Step 5)
5. Restitution. (Steps 8, 9)
6. Continued work with other alcoholics. (Step 12)
"Dr. Bob led me through all of these steps. At the moral inventory (Step 4), he brought up some of my bad personality traits or character defects, such as selfishness, conceit, jealousy, carelessness, intolerance, ill-temper, sarcasm and resentments. We went over these at great length and the he finally asked me if I wanted these defects of character removed. When I said yes (Step 6), we both knelt at this desk and prayed, each of us asking to have these defects taken away" (Step 7).
"This picture is still vivid. If I live to be a hundred, it will always stand out in my mind. It was very impressive and I wish that every A.A. could have the benefit of this type of sponsorship today. Dr. Bob always emphasized the religious angle very strongly, and I think it helped. I know it helped me, Dr. Bob then led me through the restitution step, in which I made a list of all the persons I had harmed (Step 8), and worked out ways and means of slowly making restitution (Step 9). I made several decisions at that time. One of them was that I would try to get a group started in Chicago (Step 12), the second was that I would have to return to Akron to attend meetings at least every two months until I did get a group started in Chicago, third, I decide I must place this program above everything else, even my family because if I did not maintain my sobriety I would lose my family anyway. If I did not maintain my sobriety, I would not have a job. If I did not maintain my sobriety, I would have no friends left."

Sponsorship (A.A. Grapevine, April 1961)
"Though three hundred thousand have recovered in the last twenty-five years, maybe half a million more have walked into our midst, and then out again."
"We can't well content ourselves with the view that all these recovery failures were entirely the fault of the newcomers themselves. Perhaps a great many didn't receive the kind and amount of sponsorship they so sorely needed. We didn't communicate when we might have done so. So we AA's failed them."
~ Bill W

Gudstuf if you can make to this event you will certainly be glad you did 😊
22/02/2023

Gudstuf if you can make to this event you will certainly be glad you did 😊

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15/02/2023

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27/01/2023

From the Cunning Baffling and Powerful page

Everybody has a sobriety date, but some are carved into a tombstone. That’s as real as it gets. There is no retirement plan with addiction. God only sends us so many life preservers before he comes and gets us himself. Someone needed to see this.

- Rich Walters

Clarifying Questions for RelapsersCan't stay sober? Wondering why meetings aren't working? Try working the program!Here ...
22/01/2023

Clarifying Questions for Relapsers
Can't stay sober? Wondering why meetings aren't working? Try working the program!
Here are some clarifying questions to get you started on your way back to recovery:
Has it been a while since you've taken another alcoholic through the Steps? How long?
Has it been a while since you have gone through the steps? How long?
Have you ever taken all of AA's Twelve Steps?
Have you done more than one 4th Step inventory? Have you omitted anything?
Have you completed all your 9th Step amends wherever possible? What remains to be done?
Is there something wrong in your life that you will not face and make right? What is it?
Is there a habit or indulgence you will not give up? What is it?
Is there a person you will not forgive? Who is it?
Is there a wrong relationship in your life you will not give up? What or Who is it?
Is there a restitution you will not make?
Is there something God has already told you to do that you will not obey? What is it?
Are you working with the disciplines and practices of steps Ten and Eleven (self-examination, meditation and prayer)... consistently... EVERY DAY?
On pages 14 and 15 of the Big Book of A.A., Bill W. writes, "For if an alcoholic failed to perfect and enlarge his spiritual life through work and self-sacrifice for others, he could not survive the certain trials and low spots ahead. If he did not work, he would surely drink again, and if he drank, he would surely die. Then faith would be dead indeed. With us it is just like that.
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Lots of people become iconic AA Messengers. This one, Bill Sanders, certainly did. He was a founder of the Atlanta Men's...
10/01/2023

Lots of people become iconic AA Messengers. This one, Bill Sanders, certainly did. He was a founder of the Atlanta Men's Workshop and a guy who stayed on the beam. Sponsored hundreds directly and influenced thousands to the AA Design for Living. He passed away sober watching Georgia Bulldogs football Monday.

So I ask myself "how can I best memorialize Bill?"

Let's all try to do our best today to live our code out.... our code of love.

RIP BILL S. FROM ATLANTA.

Larry S. is at it again. These are fantastic events. Book one for your homegrown or find one nearby.The page on FB is Th...
09/12/2022

Larry S. is at it again. These are fantastic events. Book one for your homegrown or find one nearby.

The page on FB is The Big Book Comes Alive. Posts daily and its all gudstuf

WE RECOVER BY THE STEPS WE TAKE NOT THE MEETINGS WE MAKEThere is a great deal of ignorance and misunderstanding within t...
05/12/2022

WE RECOVER BY THE STEPS WE TAKE NOT THE MEETINGS WE MAKE
There is a great deal of ignorance and misunderstanding within the Fellowship of A.A. today as to what is Program and what is not Program. On page 59 of the Big Book, you will find the following: Here are the Steps we took, which are suggested as a Program of recovery. It does not say: Here are the meetings we went to, nor does it say: Here are The Steps we talked about and discussed.
It says: took which implies action (page 63). The clear-cut directions for taking the Steps can be found only in our basic textbook. That is exactly why the founders of our Program went to the trouble of writing and printing the Big Book. To keep their message from being garbled. More often than not, the newcomer is told: don’t drink and go to meetings or worse yet Go to ninety meetings in ninety days. You will not find either of these suggestions in the Big Book nor in the Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions (the 12 and 12). If you rely on meetings for your recovery, you will very likely find only a short term of physical sobriety and because you continue to have a case of untreated alcoholism, will return to drinking. Recovery happens only as the result of taking and living by our Steps.
Often the newcomer is told to get a copy of the 12 and 12 as a beginning text. This is bad advice. Your study of the 12 and 12 should come only after you have experienced the Steps as the result of following the directions in the Big Book. The 12 and 12 is a great book. When you begin your study of this book, be sure to carefully read the Forward. Bill W. (author of both the Big Book and the 12 and 12) states that the 12 and 12 is a series of essays, not clear-cut directions, on our Steps and Traditions (pg. 15). On pg. 17, Bill states that the Big Book was and still is the basic text for Alcoholics Anonymous. Anyone who can read and understand the English language must know that basic text is the first book to study and from which we gain knowledge. The Big Book is the combined experience and knowledge of more than 100 men and women that has survived the test of time since 1939. Once we have experienced the results of the Steps, as they were given us by the first 100, we can and should go to other books to learn how to further develop our spiritual being (page 87). The 12 and 12 is a great second book but it certainly is not the first and Bill W. said so.
While the history and roots of Alcoholics Anonymous lie in many sources, the culmination came to be on May 12, 1935 in Akron , Ohio when Bill W., a stockbroker, sober 6 months, made a call on Dr. Bob, a surgeon, who was the hopeless victim of alcoholism. Bill was successful in helping this doctor understand the exact nature of the disease and thereby begin the road of recovery. They immediately started looking for alcoholics who might want to stay sober. Over the next four years, with the combined experience and knowledge of approximately 100 sober alcoholics, they perfected a Program that will not only help us learn how to stop drinking for good and all, but promises a successful life that has purpose, direction and peace of mind. That Program was published in April 1939 in a book titled Alcoholics Anonymous. This Book continues be the only reliable source on how to recover from alcoholism known to mankind. It is the one thing we can bet our lives on and know that it will not fail us if we live by it. The Program contained in the Big Book has proved so successful with hopeless alcoholics that people with other types of problems have experimented with our program of recovery. Their success has been so great that there are now somewhere around 200 anonymous 12 Step fellowships providing recovery for problems that have nothing to do with drinking. Therefore we are most helpful to non-alcoholics seeking a solution to their particular problem by trying to help them find the fellowship that understands their problem. As long as we confine our activities to trying to help alcoholics only, we are supremely successful.
Now some very real facts that the newcomer should be aware of. When the only thing we had as a source of recovery was the Big Book, in excess of 75% of those seeking help for their alcoholism got sober and stayed sober (page xx). We are not doing so well today. In fact, less than 5% of those seeking help today will find as much as 5 years of sobriety. A long time member of the General Service Office of A.A. in New York recently stated that between 1/2 and 2/3 of all newcomers will be gone from our Fellowship within 90 days. They were told to go to meetings and don’t drink rather than begin recovery by following the path the first 100 laid down for us in the Big Book. As the result, the vast majority of newcomers will not adopt the Program of A.A. as a way of life. They will return to drinking and die or go permanently insane. The Program of A.A. is just as effective today as it was when first offered to us in 1939. The attitude of many in our Fellowship of A.A. today is that we have learned a great deal since the publication of the Big Book and that is true. We do know a great deal more about many things but unfortunately we know only a little more about the problem (alcoholism) and nothing more about the solution (God as we understand Him) and nobody has demonstrated a more successful program of action that assures we will find the Power necessary to survive a killer case of alcoholism. That is precisely what the Program of Alcoholics Anonymous is about. The Big Book tells us precisely (page xiii), specifically (page 20) and exactly (page 45) what we must do to recover and it gives us clear-cut directions on how to do it. There is no other source for this information. Only the Book Alcoholics Anonymous is the authority. Contrary to the opinion of many in the Fellowship, the fact that we are not drinking does not imply recovery. Recovery from alcoholism takes place only after you have met a few simple requirements, which will produce an entire psychic change or spiritual experience/awakening. We do not become parents by going to PTA meetings. We do not become recovered alcoholics by going to A.A. meetings.
Our God given s*x instinct will give us a clue as to what we must do to become a parent. The Big Book will give us clear-cut directions on what we must do to become a recovered alcoholic. If we keep on doing what we did, we keep on getting what we got, only more and worse. If we change what we are doing by following the directions in the Big Book, we will start getting what we get, only more and better. If a person doesn’t like what they get, we will let them keep what they got.
Here is the process of recovery:
1. Have a real desire to never take another drink and be willing to go to any length to achieve this goal (page 58).
2. Know in your heart of hearts that you are powerless over alcohol--that your life has become unmanageable (page 30). After studying pages xi through 43, take the test on page 44: (If when you honestly want to, you find you cannot quit entirely [unable to manage a decision to not take the first drink], or when drinking, you have little control over the amount you take [powerless over alcohol] then you are an alcoholic of the hopeless variety). If you are powerless over your body and powerless over your mind where alcohol is concerned, then you are hopelessly powerless over alcohol and alcoholism is managing your life--Step One. Read the story of the jaywalker on pages 37 and 38. See if you can equate the term insanity and unmanageability. He decided he would quit jaywalking but his insane thinking led him to try it one more time; always with disastrous results.
3. By reading Chapter One, Bill’s Story, the 42 stories in the back of the Big Book and by going to speaker meetings (not discussion meetings) and Big Book study meetings, see if you believe (hope) this program might work for you--Step Two.
4. Choose a sponsor who will or has helped you with the Big Book (not the 12 and 12 in the beginning) and make a decision to take the action the first 100 laid down for us from page 63 on to the end of the Basic Text on page 164 --Step Three.
5. Vigorously take the Steps following the clear-cut directions in the Big Book--Steps Four, Five, Six, Seven, Eight, Nine, Ten, Eleven (the directions are contained on pages 64 through 88; 24 pages, carefully followed). Now you will have received the promise; you will have recovered (having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps not as the result of going to meetings.)
6. Your job now is to search out places where you may find alcoholics who do not know what is wrong with them and will never know if you don’t go to them. You can help them when no one else can. Carry this message to suffering alcoholics! Working with others is how we insure our sobriety and grow spiritually (pages 14-15).
7. Begin to learn how to practice these principles (Steps) in all our affairs by becoming knowledgeable of the wisdom in Chapters 8, 9, 10 and 11.
Some folks in A.A. will try to discourage you from taking the Steps quickly. If you will carefully study the Big Book and some of the historical material that is readily available to you, you will learn that the folks who wrote the Big Book and gave us this Program, i.e. Bill W., Dr. Bob and most of the first 100 took the Steps in their first few days following their last drink. They recognized the importance of getting the Program instilled in the newcomer very early. Page 24 tells us why. After a few days, we can no longer remember the misery that comes with our drinking. When the misery is forgotten, there will be little reason to take the Steps. When they wrote the Big Book, the emphasis was on recovery, taking the Steps; not going to meetings. There was only one meeting each week and that was for newcomers so that they might hear and see recovered alcoholics tell what they were like, what happened and what they are like now. From these meetings, they were given hope (Step Two), they came to believe that maybe they too could tap into this wonderful Power. Dr. Bob’s group in Akron , the King’s Group, still has only one meeting a week. Members of this group participate in meetings of other groups and are busy working with newcomers. They are truly members of Alcoholics Anonymous.
To get a clear picture of the Program of Alcoholics Anonymous, let’s examine Chapter One, Bill’s Story. Bill tells us what he was like in the first part of his story. He then tells us about how his drinking became a problem and some of the consequences. As we read Bill’s Story, we look for his experiences that we can say, that happened to me too like being jittery in the morning, having to have a drink to get out of bed, promising we would never drink again and then drunk again. He tells us how his alcoholism progressed and how he finally learned that in less than a year he would either die or go permanently insane. On page 8, he tells of his surrender--Step One. He tells how his drinking buddy, Ebby, only two months sober, called on him and told him about the practical Program of action he had found through the Oxford Group that made it possible for him (Ebby) to stay sober. From this Bill found some hope and finally even the belief that if he did what Ebby was doing, he too could learn to live sober--on page 12, Bill takes Step Two. On page 13, Bill tells us that he wound up at Towns Hospital because he was going into DT’s. This was December 11, 1934 . Three days later, while Ebby was visiting Bill at the hospital, Bill asked him to again explain what he had done that helped him stay sober. Ebby went over it one more time. That day, December 14, 1934 , Bill humbly offered himself to God as he understood Him-- Step Three. While at the hospital, Ebby visited Bill again and helped Bill to take Steps Four, Five, Six, Seven, Eight, Nine, Ten and Eleven (as we understand our program today). On page 14, Bill describes his spiritual experience; the promise of taking the first Eleven Steps. Bill was discharged from Townes Hospital on December 18, 1934 . Bill and at least thirty (30) more of the first 100 recovered in Townes Hospital during the first few days after their last drink. From the experience and knowledge of the first 100 came the program of Alcoholics Anonymous, which they published in the book Alcoholics Anonymous so that the precious knowledge they had acquired would not be garbled. They did not say, These are the meetings we went to. They did not say, These are the Steps we discussed and talked about. They said, These are the Steps we took. They tell us precisely what action they took to recover from alcoholism and what they did to stay recovered - one day at a time. With most of the first 100 recovering in the first few days after their last drink, you have to wonder where the idea of 90 meetings in 90 days came from. It sure did not come from Alcoholics Anonymous.
Simple but not easy, a price must be paid. However, we do have a way out on which we can absolutely agree and on which we can join in brotherly and harmonious action. That is the great news the Book Alcoholics Anonymous’ carries to those of us who suffer from alcoholism. It is the time-tested, experience-proven Program of Alcoholics Anonymous; the Twelve Steps as they were given us by the first 100 sober members of Alcoholics Anonymous. These precious Twelve Steps are protected by the Twelve Traditions. Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path. Those who do not recover are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to this simple Program (page 58).
Precisely, (page XIII), specifically (page 20), exactly (page 45), thoroughly and completely (page 58), doesn’t leave much room for doing this anyway we want to when we want to. It is not an individual program. Since 1939, this Program has not failed those of us who have followed it.
Dr. Bob, one of our co-founders said, If you think you are an atheist, an agnostic, a skeptic, or have any other form of spiritual pride which keeps you from accepting what is in this Book, I feel sorry for you. If you still think you are strong enough to beat the game alone, that is your affair. But if you really and truly want to quit drinking for good and all, and sincerely feel that you must have some help, we know that we have an answer for you. It never fails, if you go about it with one half the zeal you have been in the habit of showing when you were getting another drink. Your Heavenly Father will never let you down! (page 181)
What are you going to do?
RIP, Cliff B., Primary Purpose Group, Dallas , Tx.
This photo is of Cliff Bishop(standing) and his sponsor Joe McQuaney (of Joe & Charlie)
Two of the finest guides I've ever known.

Prayers of the Steps (Big Book)2nd Step: “God, I’m standing at the turning point right now. Give me your protection and ...
20/11/2022

Prayers of the Steps (Big Book)
2nd Step: “God, I’m standing at the turning point right now. Give me your protection and care as I abandon myself to you and give up my old ways and my old ideas just for today.” Amen

10th Step: “God Remove the Selfishness, Dishonesty, Resentment and Fear that has cropped up in my life Right Now. Help me to discuss this with someone immediately and make amends quickly if I have harmed anyone. Help me to cease fighting anything and anyone. Show me where I may be helpful to someone else. Help me react sanely; not cocky or afraid. How can I best serve You - Your will, not mine be done!” Amen

3rd Step: “God I offer myself to Thee - to build with me and to do with me as Thou wilt. Relieve me of the bo***ge of self that I may better do Thy will. Take away my difficulties, that victory over them may bear witness to those I would help of Thy Power, Thy Love, and Thy Way of life. May I do Thy will always!” Amen

11th Step: Big Book suggestions about Prayer and Meditation:
1) Make NO requests in prayer for yourself only
2) Never pray for your own selfish ends
3) Select and memorize a few set prayers that emphasize the principles of the Steps
4) ASK your Priest, Minister or Rabbi about helpful books and prayers that emphasize the principles of the Steps
5) Be quick to see where religious people are right
6) Make use of what religious people have to offer
4th Step: When I am disturbed by the conduct (symptom) of others: “God help me to show this person the same tolerance, pity and patience that I would cheerfully grant a sick friend. This is a sick person, how can I be helpful to him. God save me from being angry. Thy will be done.” Amen
When I am afraid: “God remove my fear from me and direct my attention to what you would have me be.” Amen

When I am aware of my own defects and am seeking God’s help to change: “God mold my ideas in this particular area of my life and help me to live up to them. What should I do in each specific matter? Guide me God and give me strength to do the right thing.” Amen

Night Prayer:
“God forgive me where I have been Resentful, Selfish, Dishonest or Afraid today. Help me to not keep anything to myself but to discuss it all openly with another person. Show me where I owe an apology and help me make it. Help me to be kind and loving to all people. Use me in the mainstream of life God. Remove any Worry, Remorse or Morbid (Sick) Reflection that I may be of usefulness to others.” Amen

5th Step: “God I thank you from the bottom of my heart that I know you better. Help me become aware of anything I have omitted about discussing with another person. Help me to do what is necessary to walk as a free man/woman at last.” Amen

Day Prayer:
“God Direct My thinking today so that it be divorced of Self-Pity, Dishonesty, Self-Will, Self-Seeking and Fear. God Inspire My Thinking, Decisions and Intuitions. Help me to relax and take it easy. Free Me from Doubt and Indecision. Guide Me through this day and Show Me my next step. God Give Me what I need to take care of any problems. I ask these things that I may be of maximum service to you and my fellow man in the name of the Steps I pray.” Amen

6th Step: “God help me to become willing to let go of all the things to which I still cling. Help me now to be ready to let You remove all of these defects that your will and purpose may take their place.” Amen

As We Go Along:
“God, I’m agitated and doubtful right now. Help Me to Stop and Remember that I’ve made a decision to let you be my God. Give me the right Thoughts and Actions. God save me from Fear, Anger, Worry, Self-Pity or Foolish Decisions that Your Will not mine be done.” Amen
7th Step: “My Creator, I am now willing that you should have all of me, good and bad. I pray that you now remove from me every single defect of character which stands in the way of my usefulness to you and my fellows. Grant me strength, as I go out from here, to do your bidding. Amen.”

8th Step: “God help me to become willing to sweep away the debris of self-will and self-reliant living. God Thy will be done for this person as well as for me.” Amen

9th Step: “God give me the strength and direction to do the right thing no matter what the consequences may be. Help me to consider others and not harm them in any way. Help me consult with others before I take any actions that would cause me to be sorry. Help me to not repeat such behavior. Show me the way of Patience, Tolerance, Kindliness and Love and help live the spiritual life.” Amen

How It Works. Maybe, if not the most important chapter in the Big Book. It was discovered that the podcast on How It Wor...
09/10/2022

How It Works. Maybe, if not the most important chapter in the Big Book. It was discovered that the podcast on How It Works part one was cut off half way through. This has been corrected. Have a listen to Dan Dan’s Big Book Study on How It Works part one in its entirety.
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Something I saw on The Big Book Comes Alive page.EARLY SPONSORSHIP In reality, sponsorship began with the beginning of t...
23/09/2022

Something I saw on The Big Book Comes Alive page.

EARLY SPONSORSHIP

In reality, sponsorship began with the beginning of the Program. In the early days, you had to be SPONSORED into AA. Your sponsor introduced you to the Program and the meetings. Not only that, your sponsor was responsible for your behavior in meetings; even for cleaning up after you if you got sick in meetings. Here is the content of Clarence Snyder's original pamphlet on sponsorship:

Clarence Snyder on sponsorship
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1944 A.A. Sponsorship Pamphlet
by Clarence Snyder

This is the first pamphlet ever written concerning sponsorship. It was written by Clarence H. Snyder in early 1944. Its original title was to be "A.A. Sponsorship...Its Obligations and Its Responsibilities." It was printed by the Cleveland Central Committee under the title:

"A.A. Sponsorship . . . Its Opportunities and Its Responsibilities."

PREFACE
Each member of Alcoholics Anonymous is a potential sponsor of a new member and should clearly recognize the obligations and duties of such responsibility.

The acceptance of an opportunity to take the A.A. plan to a sufferer of alcoholism entails very real and critically important responsibilities. Each member, undertaking the sponsorship of a fellow alcoholic, must remember that he is offering what is frequently the last chance of rehabilitation, sanity or maybe life itself.

Happiness, Health, Security, Sanity and Life of human beings are the things we hold in balance when we sponsor an alcoholic.

No member among us is wise enough to develop a sponsorship program that can be successfully applied in every case. In the following pages, however, we have outlined a suggested procedure, which supplemented by the member's own experience, has proven successful.

PERSONAL GAINS OF BEING A SPONSOR
No one reaps full benefit from any fellowship he is connected with unless he wholeheartedly engages in its important activities. The expansion of Alcoholics Anonymous to wider fields of greater benefit to more people results directly from the addition of new, worth-while members or associates.

Any A.A. who has not experienced the joys and satisfaction of helping another alcoholic regain his place in life has not yet fully realized the complete benefits of this fellowship. On the other hand, it must be clearly kept in mind that the only possible reason for bringing an alcoholic into A.A. is for that person's gain. Sponsorship should never be undertaken to -

1. Increase the size of the group.
2. For personal satisfaction and glory.
3. Because the sponsor feels it his duty to re-make the world.

Until an individual has assumed the responsibility of setting a shaking, helpless human being back on the path toward becoming a healthy useful, happy member of society, he has not enjoyed the complete thrill of being an A.A.

SOURCE OF NAMES
Most people have among their own friends and acquaintances someone who would benefit from our teachings. Others have names given to them by their church, by their doctor, by their employer, or by some other member, who cannot make a direct contact.

Because of the wide range of the A.A. activities, the names often come from unusual and unexpected places. These cases should be contacted as soon as all facts such as: marital status, domestic relations, financial status, drink habits, employment status and others readily obtainable are at hand.

IS THE PROSPECT A CANDIDATE?
Much time and effort can be saved by learning as soon as possible if -

1. The man* really has a drinking problem?
2. Does he know he has a problem?
3. Does he want to do something about his drinking?
4. Does he want help?

*The masculine form is used throughout for simplicity, although it is intended to include women as well.

Sometimes the answers to these questions cannot be made until the prospect has had some A.A. instruction, and an opportunity to think. Often we are given names, which upon investigation, show the prospect is in no sense an alcoholic, or is satisfied with his present plan of living. We should not hesitate to drop these names from our lists. Be sure, however, to let the man know where he can reach us at a later date.

WHO SHOULD BECOME MEMBERS?
A.A. is a fellowship of men and women bound together by their inability to use alcohol in any form sensibly, or with profit or pleasure. Obviously, any new members introduced should be the same kind of people, suffering from the same disease.

Most people can drink reasonably, but we are only interested in those who cannot. Party drinkers, social drinkers, celebrators, and others who continue to have more pleasure than pain from their drinking, are of no interest to us.

In some instances an individual might believe himself to be a social drinker when he definitely is an alcoholic. In many such cases more time must pass before that person is ready to accept our program. Rushing such a man before he is ready might ruin his chances of ever becoming a successful A.A.. Do not ever deny future help by pushing too hard in the beginning.

Some people, although definitely alcoholic, have no desire or ambition to better their way of living, and until they do........ A.A. has nothing to offer them.

Experience has shown that age, intelligence, education, background, or the amount of liquor drunk, has little, if any, bearing on whether or not the person is an alcoholic.

PRESENTING THE PLAN
In many cases a man's physical condition is such that he should be placed in a hospital, if at all possible. Many A.A. members believe hospitalization, with ample time for the prospect to think and plan his future, free from domestic and business worries, offers distinct advantage. In many cases the hospitalization period marks the beginning of a new life. Other members are equally confident that any man who desires to learn the A.A. plan for living can do it in his own home or while engaged in normal occupation. Thousands of cases are treated in each manner and have proved satisfactory.

SUGGESTED STEPS*
The following paragraphs outline a suggested procedure for presenting the A.A. plan to the prospect, at home or in the hospital.

QUALIFY AS AN ALCOHOLIC*
1. In calling upon a new prospect, it has been found best to qualify oneself as an ordinary person who has found happiness, contentment, and peace of mind through A.A. Immediately make it clear to the prospect that you are a person engaged in the routine business of earning a living. Tell him your only reason for believing yourself able to help him is because you yourself are an alcoholic and have had experiences and problems that might be similar to his.

TELL YOUR STORY*
2. Many members have found it desirable to launch immediately into their personal drinking story, as a means of getting the confidence and whole-hearted co-operation of the prospect.

It is important in telling the story of your drinking life to tell it in a manner that will describe an alcoholic, rather than a series of humorous drunken parties. This will enable the man to get a clear picture of an alcoholic which should help him to more definitely decide whether he is an alcoholic.

INSPIRE CONFIDENCE IN A.A.*
3. In many instances the prospect will have tried various means of controlling his drinking, including hobbies, church, changes of residence, change of associations, and various control plans. These will, of course, have been unsuccessful. Point out your series of unsuccessful efforts to control drinking...their absolute fruitless results and yet that you were able to stop drinking through application of A.A. principles. This will encourage the prospect to look forward with confidence to sobriety in A.A. in spite of the many past failures he might have had with other plans.

TALK ABOUT "PLUS" VALUES*
4. Tell the prospect frankly that he cannot quickly understand all the benefits that are coming to him through A.A.. Tell him of the happiness, peace of mind, health, and in many cases, material benefits which are possible through understanding and application of the A.A. way of life.

SHOW IMPORTANCE OF READING BOOK*
5. Explain the necessity of reading and re-reading the A.A. book. Point out that this book gives a detailed description of the A.A. tools and the suggested methods of application of these tools to build a foundation of rehabilitation for living. This is a good time to emphasize the importance of the twelve steps and the four absolutes.

QUALITIES REQUIRED FOR SUCCESS IN A.A.*
6. Convey to the prospect that the objectives of A.A. are to provide the ways and means for an alcoholic to regain his normal place in life. Desire, patience, faith, study and application are most important in determining each individual's plan of action in gaining full benefits of A.A.

INTRODUCE FAITH*
7. Since the belief of a Power greater than oneself is the heart of the A.A. plan, and since this idea is very often difficult for a new man, the sponsor should attempt to introduce the beginnings of an understanding of this all-important feature.

Frequently this can be done by the sponsor relating his own difficulty in grasping a spiritual understanding and the methods he used to overcome his difficulties.

LISTEN TO HIS STORY*
8. While talking to the newcomer, take time to listen and study his reactions in order that you can present your information in a more effective manner. Let him talk too. Remember...Easy Does It. TAKE TO SEVERAL MEETINGS* 9. To give the new member a broad and complete picture of A.A., the sponsor should take him to various meetings within convenient distance of his home. Attending several meetings gives a new man a chance to select a group in which he will be most happy and comfortable, and it is extremely important to let the prospect make his own decision as to which group he will join. Impress upon him that he is always welcome at any meeting and can change his home group if he so wishes.

EXPLAIN A.A. TO PROSPECT'S FAMILY*
10. A successful sponsor takes pains and makes any required effort to make certain that those people closest and with the greatest interest in their prospect (mother, father, wife, etc.) are fully informed of A.A., its principles and its objectives. The sponsor sees that these people are invited to meetings, and keeps them in touch with the current situation regarding the prospect at all times.

HELP PROSPECT ANTICIPATE HOSPITAL EXPERIENCE*
11. A prospect will gain more benefit from a hospitalization period if the sponsor describes the experience and helps him anticipate it, paving the way for those members who will call on him.

CONSULT OLDER MEMBERS IN A.A.*
These suggestions for sponsoring a new man in A.A. teachings are by no means complete. They are intended only for a framework and general guide. Each individual case is different and should be treated as such. Additional information for sponsoring a new man can be obtained from the experience of older men in the work. A co-sponsor, with an experienced and newer member working on a prospect, has proven very satisfactory. Before undertaking the responsibility of sponsoring, a member should make certain that he is able and prepared to give the time, effort, and thought such an obligation entails. It might be that he will want to select a co-sponsor to share the responsibility, or he might feel it necessary to ask another to assume the responsibility for the man he has located.

Even though SPONSORSHIP is not mentioned in the book Alcoholics Anonymous (The Big Book) I would suggest that sponsorship was the rule, from the beginning, and not something added later.

Bill called Ebby his sponsor until death, even though Ebby slipped a few times. But the chain of sponsorship starts with Rowland Hazard, who sponsored Shep Cornell and Cebra Graves, who sponsored Ebby, who sponsored Bill, who sponsored Bob who, together, sponsored Bill D., etc.

In "Dr. Bob and the Good Old Timers," it's clear that NO ONE just sauntered in off the streets and decided to join AA. Instead they were sponsored into the group FROM a hospital and wouldn't even attend a meeting unless they went through Dr. Bob's Upper Room treatment where they "made a surrender," often a key element missing from modern AA.

Also in that book it's described how the group got together and pooled their money to bus a guy in who "supposedly" was the first to get sober on JUST THE BOOK. When the bus arrived and a man, matching his description, didn't get off the bus, the group asked the bus driver. They were told of a guy under the seat drunk on his bus. The group of sober drunks, of course, helped the drunk off and began to sponsor him.

I always thought that was interesting and have often wondered if it was truly possible to get sober ON THE BOOK ALONE. Even if you did, you would need to take the advice in A Vision For You and seek out drunks to form a fellowship, thus becoming a sponsor.

I think the real question is when did sponsorship become optional and how sober drunks stopped seeking to sponsor and waited for someone to ask them. Or even the notion of being told "you must get a sponsor," when did that start.

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