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There has been a LOT of speculation about the new film "Joker: Folie à Deux" and its lackluster box office this past wee...
08/10/2024

There has been a LOT of speculation about the new film "Joker: Folie à Deux" and its lackluster box office this past weekend. Some liked it, many didn't, and after roughly four days in theaters, it's already been declared a "bomb," which is a problem in Hollywood - the fast judgment by the media and the studio box office observers. But I will say that the stats have been so refined over the years that studios usually do have a pretty accurate sense of how a film will perform based on those first few days and audience reactions. But once you start CALLING a film a bomb, it's hard to change course or salvage it.

As for myself, I had no real interest in seeing the sequel. I didn't really want to see the first film, but eventually I did because Phoenix was nominated for an Oscar and I wanted to see if it was worth it. His performance was quite good, and I ended up liking the first film, more or less.

Why my reluctance? Simply put, Joker emerged in the aftermath of the DC/Snyderverse crash, in an era when we simply didn't know what was what - would we get another Affleck Batman movie? Was Cavill in or out? Was Snyder done? Would his universe continue, or get rebooted with the same characters?

And what was this new Batman film they were talking about, with Robert Pattinson? There were now THREE different DC movie universes in motion, and who knew what would survive or get cancelled. With that kind of uncertainty, I hesitated to invest my dollar, as the studio didn't seem to care about the audience and continued to mismanage the films.

Eventually Todd Phillips' Joker and Matt Reeves The Batman were both to continue as their own thing, in their own universes, so that was settled. Then DC rebooted their main "Justice League" Universe with James Gunn at the helm. So at least I finally felt there was a PLAN going ahead. They were no longer just throwing mixes at the wall, seeing what would stick.

I see Phillips' Joker sequel as having two problems: One, it was foolish to triple the budget from the first film. Yes, the first film made a billion at the box office, but the studio sees half of that. So on the first film, a $100+ million investment (70+promo) with a $500 mil return makes sense. But spend what probably amounted to close to $300 million (190+promo) on the new film??? Even under the best of circumstances and a box office that exceeds the first film, you really lower your profit margin. And from what everyone has said, Joker: Folie à Deux didn't look like triple the budget on screen.

Number two, and this is a big one - This isn't the Joker, at least not the Joker from the DC comics. Sure, it might be an alternate Joker in an alternate universe, but with much more realism and less super powers then the Snyderverse or Nolanverse. It's also a universe that takes Joker and Harley Quinn in a totally new direction, but also one that undermines all of their best and most entertaining attributes.

From what I understand, Phillips' intent was to subvert your expectations and show you that the "anti-hero" of the first film was no hero at all, and that sounds like a good plan. But to me it sounds like Joker: Folie à Deux, despite its best intentions, suffers from the same old Hollywood problem - more profit over creative narrative need.

Again, I haven't seen the movie, and I'm sure one day I will catch it streaming. Maybe I'll love it, who knows. But I find myself, yet again, wondering why, instead of three times the money, we didn't just get three more cool films by Phillips and others?

(For reference, the photo is of actor Conrad Veidt in character as Gwynplaine in the 1928 film "The Man Who Laughs," a primary inspiration for the original Joker character.)

More Archon 47 fun...
06/10/2024

More Archon 47 fun...

Did you know?In "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home," all of the underwater shots of the whales were done with remote control...
05/10/2024

Did you know?

In "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home," all of the underwater shots of the whales were done with remote controlled model whales?

Supervised by Walt Conti, the whales were shot in a swimming pool.

So now after two night of strong solar flares and auroras, let's hope tomorrow doesn't look like this:
12/05/2024

So now after two night of strong solar flares and auroras, let's hope tomorrow doesn't look like this:

Our new Gamera, Guardian Of The Universe vinyl figure looks fabulous on the mantel, sandwiched between 2 classic robots....
01/03/2023

Our new Gamera, Guardian Of The Universe vinyl figure looks fabulous on the mantel, sandwiched between 2 classic robots. The scale is a bit off, but Robby and The Iron Giant have welcomed him into the fold.

Wyatt was too old to be either an "All That" or a "Kenan & Kel" kid, let alone a "Good Burger" kid. But it does his hear...
28/02/2023

Wyatt was too old to be either an "All That" or a "Kenan & Kel" kid, let alone a "Good Burger" kid. But it does his heart good to know that the Burger Mobile is alive and well and intact at the Hi-Pointe Diner. (and they have great burgers there!!!)

And so it begins...February is when Wyatt and Gayle start a block of jobs that keeps us hopping all the way into May. Th...
27/02/2023

And so it begins...
February is when Wyatt and Gayle start a block of jobs that keeps us hopping all the way into May. The summer is usually pretty slow, and then we start up again in the fall and work right up til Christmas. January is off. It works out pretty well.
We have built long term relationships with many of our clients, and some of them we have worked with annually for 10 years or more. It took some time, faith, and patience to get here, but as a production company, we never really stress, and that's unusual.
It's also nice when schedule allows us to take over the big board room at an organization and we have room to breath and spread out. In addition to producing and sound recording, Gayle is always the lighting stand-in!

  Gayle & Wyatt filming b-roll at the Missouri State Capitol Building. AMAZING space!
26/02/2023

Gayle & Wyatt filming b-roll at the Missouri State Capitol Building. AMAZING space!

Gayle and Wyatt have finally wrapped principle photography on their "Covid feature", Dark At The Top Of The Stairs. Here...
21/02/2023

Gayle and Wyatt have finally wrapped principle photography on their "Covid feature", Dark At The Top Of The Stairs. Here are a few highlights from the shoot:

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