Then God Moved

10/07/2024

“I had my first crush on a girl at age four, but it wasn’t until I was 18 that I realized I was dealing with “homos*xuality. “ I remember looking around my church like, I have to tell someone about this. Who here could I talk to? And I thought, there’s no one here. And God spoke SO clearly to me: ‘Why do you think I chose you?’ I was like, no! Because from a young age, I would say, ‘God, I want to have a story like David or Joseph. I want to live a life that is worth recording.’ But when God said this to me, I was like, “No. I want to be used for the kingdom, but not like this.’

I had a long season of trying to run from the truth. Deep down, I knew that it was sin, but there was a period of hoping I was wrong. I hoped that maybe I was raised in a religious bubble that twisted scripture and that God’s actually okay with it. I wanted to be like, ‘Guys, this is what God showed me!’ But the more I sought for that, the opposite would happen. And it made me angry every time.

While I was seeing a new girl, someone encouraged me to go to this random Bible study on a Friday night. I didn’t know anyone there and I sat at this table with six random girls. And I heard God say, ‘Tell them about the girl.’ I’m like, no! And He’s like, ‘Tell them about the girl so they can help you. You can’t do this on your own.’ And I’m like, no, God! I’m not going to be the gay girl at Bible study! And so I’m arguing with God in my spirit, and then this girl that I had never met goes, ‘Autumn, I feel like the Holy Spirit is saying that you’re involved with someone that God doesn’t want you involved with…and that you’re using this person to fill a void that God wants to be the one to fill.’ I was like, God, you told her?! But I also felt so seen. And clear as day, I heard God say, ‘Even if you remain silent, the rocks will cry out.’” 🤯

On the latest episode of , I chat with about supernatural revelation, God’s perfect design, psychos*xual development, the connection between legalism/religious spirits and homos*xuality, and the reliability of God’s Word. WATCH on Patreon — or listen on any podcast platform! 🎙️🙌🏾

10/07/2024

“I had my first crush on a girl at age four, but it wasn’t until I was 18 that I realized I was dealing with “homos*xuality. “ I remember looking around my church like, I have to tell someone about this. Who here could I talk to? And I thought, there’s no one here. And God spoke SO clearly to me: ‘Why do you think I chose you?’ I was like, no! Because from a young age, I would say, ‘God, I want to have a story like David or Joseph. I want to live a life that is worth recording.’ But when God said this to me, I was like, “No. I want to be used for the kingdom, but not like this.’

I had a long season of trying to run from the truth. Deep down, I knew that it was sin, but there was a period of hoping I was wrong. I hoped that maybe I was raised in a religious bubble that twisted scripture and that God’s actually okay with it. I wanted to be like, ‘Guys, this is what God showed me!’ But the more I sought for that, the opposite would happen. And it made me angry every time.

While I was seeing a new girl, someone encouraged me to go to this random Bible study on a Friday night. I didn’t know anyone there and I sat at this table with six random girls. And I heard God say, ‘Tell them about the girl.’ I’m like, no! And He’s like, ‘Tell them about the girl so they can help you. You can’t do this on your own.’ And I’m like, no, God! I’m not going to be the gay girl at Bible study! And so I’m arguing with God in my spirit, and then this girl that I had never met goes, ‘Autumn, I feel like the Holy Spirit is saying that you’re involved with someone that God doesn’t want you involved with…and that you’re using this person to fill a void that God wants to be the one to fill.’ I was like, God, you told her?! But I also felt so seen. And clear as day, I heard God say, ‘Even if you remain silent, the rocks will cry out.’” 🤯

On the latest episode of , I chat with about supernatural revelation, God’s perfect design, psychos*xual development, the connection between legalism/religious spirits and homos*xuality, and the reliability of God’s Word. WATCH on Patreon — or listen on any podcast platform!

05/07/2024

“Growing up, I regularly had dreams of angels and demons. We also had neighbors in Miami who practiced Santería and did all sorts of sacrificial rituals…they’d sometimes even leave chicken blood behind. I remember waking up at around 3am one night and seeing a werewolf-looking creature with two red eyes. From that moment, I KNEW evil existed. But like most young people, I went my own way as a teenager.

My freshman year of high school, I met a boy who betrayed my trust. We drank and things got heated, but I didn’t want to have s*x with him. I fought back. I did not want to give in, but I eventually did. This trauma began a dark pattern of me trusting the wrong men. At age 25, I got pregnant by a man who didn’t want a relationship with me. I had an abortion. After that additional trauma, I started getting into New Age practices. Around this time, I met a Christian man who wanted to marry me. But despite going to church with this man and his family, I was still so lost. After nine months, I broke up with him…and then I realized I was pregnant again!

After I gave birth, I felt an insane amount of  joy and happiness that I had never experienced before. As I was holding my baby and crying, I realized that God had blessed me with another chance at life. On my second day in the hospital, as I was breastfeeding my son, I had a vision. I was supernaturally transported to the foot of the Cross, where I saw Jesus hanging there, bleeding and in pain. I also saw the grief of his mother Mary. The reality of the sacrifice Jesus made for me hit me and in that moment, I finally began to worship Him. From that point on, I have belonged to Jesus Christ!”

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30/06/2024

“I came out as gay when I was 15. My parents came from a Jehovah’s Witness background, but then they disfellowshipped and became Christians... so I would say I grew up in more of a conservative household. So coming out was a very alienating experience for me. I’m 30 now, so this was 15 years ago. Back then, being gay wasn’t really a thing. I mean, it was, but it wasn’t like it is today.

When I came out, I got called into the dean’s office and the dean told me off. She looked me right in the eye and said, ‘the homos*xual lifestyle is a very hard life to live.’ And then my mom got called into the office… she was crying. I was essentially told that I’d shamed the family for coming out as gay. It was quite a horrible experience. So I always thought, well, I can’t be a Christian. I’m gay. Why would I follow this faith if it’s against my s*xuality? We’d go to church on Sunday, but I never followed Christianity.

It took me until age 25 to hit rock bottom. I had a few su***de attempts… I just felt so empty and alone. My life felt like it had no meaning. And I was constantly looking for an identity. Eventually, I was like, you know what? **** this. I’m going to try and pursue God and see what this looks like. And I started going to Hillsong Church. People don’t like Hillsong, but whatever. I went and I started reading the Bible and I just started asking heaps of questions. I was like, how do you know God? HOW do you know God? Who is this dude?”

How do you know God? How do you recognize and fight sin? And is s*xuality something Christians can “agree to disagree” about? If you’ve already listened to this episode, share your thoughts in the comments! Your words just might be (anonymously) featured in my follow-up episodes! If you haven’t heard, tune in now wherever you get your podcasts 🎤🕊️

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24/06/2024

“I graduated high school with “Class Witch” on my cap, but entered college a Christian. Here’s my story:

When I was 16, I was drawn into the new age by social media posts about ‘the universe’ and karma. A year later, I got into witchcraft. When I was a witch, I actually thought it was HILARIOUS that manifestation was a trend on social media, because people didn’t know they were casting spells. If you’re doing rituals to manipulate your own outcome, that is witchcraft.

Anyway, I practiced what’s considered ‘good’ witchcraft. But the deception is that if you have good intentions, it can’t be bad. I was really deceived. What I was doing was not loving. It was delusion. It was narcissism. It was an obsession with power. All my life, I never felt I had power…I wanted that feeling. And that’s why so many women are obsessed with witchcraft.

As time went on, I started to get confused. My new age and witchy beliefs told me that there was no real spiritual evil, just human ego. They also told me that good people would get good things in life. Yet I saw that the most perverted people were rich and on top and that good, working people were suffering. I started doing research and every time I did, I felt a dark presence around me. It was like some spirit was not happy that I was doing these things.

After high school graduation, I asked one of my old teachers about his thoughts on the evil in the world. To my surprise, he preached the Gospel to me! He was like, ‘The world has fallen because of sin, but our Savior is Jesus Christ.’ As I read more, I realized that Christians weren’t religiously brainwashed; the faith is truly spiritual! Jesus performed miracles that nobody in any other religion has close to, and His followers are given spiritual gifts like speaking in tongues and prophesying.

It became clear that what I had been doing were counterfeit experiences centered around demonic spirits. After two months of research, I yielded to God and repented! Witchcraft promised me peace, but I’ve only found it in the presence of God.”

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15/06/2024

12/06/2024

“I was molested at age eight by a boy that was a year older than me. And so that started the s*xual curiosity and this idea that if I want a guy’s attention, then I need to be very s*xual. I quickly became hyper s*xual and I remember feeling like boys had all the power and girls were just used. I became very jealous of boys, because I wanted the power they had.

In college, I got into a serious p**n addiction and I started fantasizing about being the man and reversing those roles. I found a transgender support group where I was living and within five minutes of being there, they were like ‘Oh, you’re definitely trans.’

Before I began transitioning, I was worried that I would never look like a man. I had never really been around trans people at all. But one of the people who was leading our trans support group said, ‘After a year or so of taking the hormones, no one will ever know you were a girl.’ And that was really the hook for me.

I chose the name Jacobe, with an E on the end. I don’t know, I think I was just trying to be cool or whatever. And God used it, because I had so many people mispronounce it. I literally had a UPS guy come to the door one time and say, is Jah-Cobe there? And I was like, really? That’s how you’re pronouncing that?! But God used it to remind me that I had named myself this. I can’t tell you how many times I was so aware of that. I was like…this is fake. This is all fake.”

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06/06/2024

God’s thoughts are not our thoughts and His ways are not our ways.

When brother-sister duo Noah and Jenna Sue first set out to create their Antichrist tv pilot, they had no inkling of the many miracles God had in store (for instance, the production support of ’s ). As the Bennetts share with Adira on the latest episode of , God went WAY above and beyond what they could think or imagine — as He often does.

Jenna Sue: “There were a lot of times that I was like, I don’t think it’s going to work out. The funding is not here and I don’t know what to do. But we just kept on going. And then right last minute, it was a God thing. Like okay — we have the funding!”

Noah: “It was enough to make us cry. And it did.”

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03/06/2024

“Growing up, I really struggled with rejection, which led to insecurities and a lack of confidence. I always felt different no matter how hard I tried to be like my peers. And I learned at a young age that you can’t share your dreams with everyone. I made the mistake of sharing my gift and dreams with people I thought were my friends and the enemy used them to really crush my spirit. I started listening to the enemy telling me that there are people out here who are more talented, more gifted, smarter, prettier, etc. So I ended up falling into a false identity that I created for myself.

Fast forward to 2015. I quit my job because they sold me a lot of false hope in advancing with the company. That really created a lot of anger in me and added to the trust issues I already had towards people. So I was jobless. I had blown through my savings. I was addicted to w**d. I felt completely lost, broken, lonely, and without purpose…it was truly the hardest year of my life. BUT at the same time, it was the best year of my life, because it changed my life for the better. It was in that time that I really cried out to God and asked Him who He is, because I had always known about God, but I never knew who He was.

That season taught me that God will break us down so low so that He can build us back up. All I had was this broken heart that I handed over to Him and He took it and gave me a new one. It was like this light started shining into the dark places of my life, and I was able to see all of this dirt and junk that I didn’t know was there.”

On the latest episode of , Adira chats with spoken word artist and makes a surprising confession about her own life. After listening, head back here and share your thoughts in the comments! 👇🏾👇🏾

29/05/2024

“I had a fascination with the occult from a young age. The occult and occultic music were my escape, alongside drugs and eventually s*xual immorality. These things catapulted me forward in secrecy and toward a dangerous life. I was arrested four times in high school. I spent some time in juvie. But along the way, God kept making himself known to me. I knew Jesus was God, but I didn’t know the gospel. The Bible seemed to me like a list of rules that I was failing. I just saw God as a judge, so I didn’t want him to come around me, and I certainly didn’t love him. So taking a step into Satanism was not a hard thing for me. I knew if I go this way, I’m going toward the devil and can avoid God.

So I started doing blood magic and ritual work. I actually signed my name in blood in my leather-bound magic journal. I was conjuring things and basically going off the deep end to try to attain the fame that I wanted. I studied studying Alistair Crowley, who said if you really want power, think of the most depraved thing that you can imagine…and then do it. So I did things that if you told your average person, they’d be like, what??? You drank blood? The truth is I did things way worse than that.

I got super addicted to he**in and when I say pretty addicted, I mean I was like was doing it every day. I had multiple overdoses. I actually remember praying, ‘God, I know that you’re protecting me from dying from an overdose and I want you to stop. I don’t want you interacting with me.’ I was begging God to leave me alone. And He did give me over to my addiction for a time…for a long time, actually. But in the end, it was a life-threatening overdose that changed everything.”

Though Mason’s story is a jaw-dropper, it’s not just that. Ultimately, it’s a picture of how grief, abuse, and cultish theology led a young boy to go his own way — until he finally found his way back into the arms of his loving and impossibly patient Savior. Find this new episode of Then God Moved on any podcast platform!

26/05/2024

“There was so much pain attached to my identity as a woman. But when I was living as Jacobe, the Lord kept convicting me over and over of the sin that I was in. Eventually, I began to hate being transgender and really kind of loathe everything I was doing, especially the fake prosthetic genitalia. But at the same time, I didn’t want to be a woman.

One night, I said, ‘Lord, What do you want from me? I don’t want to miss anything that you planned for me.’ And the Lord asked me a question. He said, ‘If you stood before me tonight, what name would I call?’”

Hear all about Laura’s hard-won journey to freedom in Christ on podcast episode “When a Transgender Person De-Transitions (Laura’s Story).” Available everywhere! 🎙️✞

16/05/2024

“What happens when your dad isn’t in the picture? As a girl, that is the first relationship that you have with the opposite s*x. It’s a relationship that reaffirms your identity as a girl and a woman and that sets the bar for other men. I didn’t have my dad in my life and I didn’t think it bothered me. I was an honor student and whatever… but when I became a adult and it was time to date, I found myself looking for a father through men that I was dating. I dated older men and they would take advantage me…bad things would happen. Because I was vulnerable. Because I didn’t have any covering.

Long story short, I ended up getting pregnant at age 17. And before I got pregnant, God gave me a warning. My daughter’s father and I had been going to a youth church and this girl came to talk to us about being a single mom. She had a baby at 16 and was basically telling us not to have s*x before marriage. And I was sitting there like ‘Well, I’m not having s*x.’ Because we weren’t having full in*******se, but we were doing s*xual things. Clearly, we came close enough for me to get pregnant. Two months later, I’ve missed a period.

Fortunately, God uses our bad decisions…he truly flips them and turns them for our good. After I gave birth to my daughter Jaelyn, the Holy Spirit really brought me into repentance. I learned all about about spiritual warfare and let go of the dark things I was involved in. I was in tears, like ‘I’m so sorry, God, I didn’t understand.’ It took me seven years to get to where I am now.

Of course, there’s also the blessing of my daughter. Jaelyn has a high calling on her life. She’s not a mistake — she is definitely meant to be here. She is my flower. So just look at how God has blessed me in the mix of my sin and my faults.”

On Jasmine’s episode of , she and Adira discuss daddy issues, childhood s*xual abuse, suicidal ideation, and more (consider this a content warning). They also tackle healthy boundaries, sleep paralysis, generational inequities, isolation and self-sabotage, and perhaps most importantly, why we should not delay in responding to God’s invitation to repent!

13/05/2024

“I remember one day on death row, we were watching TV. And Betty Montgomery (the state attorney) gave a media interview and she said ‘Derrick Jamison should be released from death row as soon as possible.’ And the whole penitentiary went crazy because everybody was watching the news. All these guards were at my door like, ‘Boy, they better go get you out of here.’ Because we called Betty Montgomery ‘Bloody Betty.’ She had killed so many of my friends. But Bloody Betty was saying that I was innocent and that I should be released as soon as possible.’

How did Derrick finally escape death row, the harsh fate that he never deserved? In his recent nterview with of , Derrick details the insane miracle that led to not only his physical liberation, but also a deeper, lifelong freedom in Christ. Find on any podcast platform!

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08/05/2024

”I was cast in season four of Real Housewives of Orange County. This was way before they even had New York, Beverly Hills, or any other franchises. I was so excited when I started the show. I just thought this will be fun, I get to go shopping and drink champagne with some girlfriends… I had no idea that I was signing myself up for such scrutiny and for my actual story to be completely manipulated. They immediately tried to make me look like I was this gold digger. And they did a really good job of telling that narrative.

They never showed that I was an extremely successful real estate agent, you know what I mean? I was raised in a very strong Christian household, but that was not the story that they wanted to show. And now I was thrust in front of 400 million people in 144 different countries. If you’re not right with yourself and with God, that could destroy you. And they tried everything to destroy me.

I remember the day that the impact of the show really hit me. This little 6 or 7 year old girl came up to me and was like, ‘Oh my gosh, Gretchen, I love you.’ And I’m looking at this little girl like, ‘What are you doing watching this show?’ And I literally had a conversation with this girl, saying, ‘Now, this is not how you treat other women. You don’t talk to people this way.’ So even though the fan support means the world to me — in that moment, I believe God put it on my heart that this isn’t the example that I want to be setting. That’s part of the reason that I left.”

On the latest episode of , revisits her decision to join , the very entertaining chaos that ensued, and how God used it all to prove Himself faithful (exhibit A: the WILD story of her miracle baby!). Gretchen and host also unpack the media’s demonic influences (and the need to guard your heart‼️), how God uses of suffering to improve our character, and the TRUE meaning of surrender. Tune in now on any podcast platform!

02/05/2024

“For a lot of transgender kids, it starts with feeling like you don’t fit in with your same s*x for whatever reason. And as a kid growing up, I had a difficult relationship with my mom, but I did everything with my dad. And is I didn’t know how to fit in with the girls at school. I remember feeling too strong for a girl and not as feminine. On top of all of that, I was also molested by an older boy and that made me hyper-s*xual. By the time I was in high school, I was giving myself away to anybody that would pay attention to me.

In college, I got into a pretty significant p**nography addiction. And as I went deeper, I began to fantasize about me being the man in the encounter. I’d never heard the word ‘transgender’ but I Googled ‘girl becoming a boy’ and I found a support group in my area. Within five minutes of being there, they were like, ‘Oh, you’re definitely transgender.’ One of the girls there (that was living as a guy) told me that after a year or so of taking hormones, no one would ever know I had been a girl. That hooked me.

After the second or third hormone injection, I was starting to grow a little more body hair and my voice was getting lower. I was aware that my body is looking more male, but I knew that I was still female. I knew the whole time. I thought that having my breasts removed would make me feel more like a man, but it didn’t. In my desperation, I had a hysterectomy and I had my ovaries removed. That still didn’t make it real…because this was not real.

Since my detransition, I’ve learned that Satan doesn’t create anything, he just counterfeits everything. Truly, this whole idea of being transgender is a counterfeit rebirth. They want to reinvent themselves and declare themselves creator. It’s like being born again — but it’s a false recreation.” - Laura Perry Smaltz on the latest episode of Then God Moved. Hear all about miraculous journey wherever you get your podcasts!

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22/04/2024

“My dad was in and out of jail and there were several times that he tried to kill my mom. There was one time when I even was probably five or six…we had this iron duck statue in the bathroom and he was holding that over her head. She was in the bathtub crying and stuff and I was just begging him not to kill her. So that’s a memory that sticks with me.

But they ended up getting divorced when I was seven or eight, because she didn’t want me growing up thinking that that was how a man was supposed to treat a woman. Had she stayed with him, my life would’ve turned out completely different. I think I would’ve been in something super toxic where I may have been getting abused, but things turned out pretty good. I mean, I was sad. I was like, I want my dad here. Why doesn’t he love me? And my mom would always tell me she loved me, but it just wasn’t the same. It is not the same.” → Father wounds, the new age, a healthy relationship with money, and more — hear it ALL on the latest episode of ! Find it on any platform 🎧

18/04/2024

“It started with yoga. I pretty much had a quarter life crisis when my husband and I moved to Germany. We were overseas, I didn’t really know who I was, and it was such a new marriage It was a lot. And so I decided to do some self-discovery work. I started reading all of these books from super well-known authors, people who were super respected in the psychology and metaphysical spaces. And I found a lot of comfort and understanding in that, so I started doing yoga and meditating, and then I got into crystals. And when I was using crystals, I got super wrapped up in it. My husband would come home and I would be laying on the floor in a star position with crystals all over my body. Then I got into ‘womb work,’ where I would put my menstrual blood on my face…it was so intense.

My sister was also into the new age, but God had opened her eyes. So she became a light for me. She was basically like ‘Hey girl, I was there too, but this is what God has been saying to me.’ I was definitely hesitant, because I just didn’t understand why my practices were bad. But it was my sister praying for me and challenging me that made all the difference. In 2019, I finally began to wonder: where does God actually fit into all these practices? It wasn’t until I asked myself that question that I got my answer. If I have to ask, then God is not in it. God made all those beautiful crystals and things, but the meaning that I had associated with them was wrong. I had given all of God’s power and all of God’s glory to these rocks.

My prayer now is that God continues to reveal himself to me and remove the things that are not in his plan for me. There are things that I’m still struggling with, but he’s still working on me.” - Erica Hardy on the latest episode of

Since leaving the new age for Jesus, Erica has undergone a massive transformation — and with that has come a renewed vision of “success.” So what is healthy, God-honoring ambition? How can we confidently work “as to the Lord and not to men” (Colossians 3:23)? Tune in on any platform!

06/04/2024

“What does the death penalty say about our religious beliefs and our morals? Do we have the right to take a human life, or is that totally within the realm of God? In defending the death penalty, people often go back to the Old Testament. There were so many crimes under mosaic wall that people were executed for. Even if you talked back to a priest or a judge, you could be executed. Kidnapping, incest…I mean, it goes on and on.

But then, I think back to the passage when this woman who was caught into adultery was getting ready to be stoned to death — and Jesus interceded. He said, hey, whoever doesn’t have any sin can cast the first stone. And everybody walked away. That’s a clear separation from the Old Testament. It does not negate the fact that sin is sin and that there should be accountability. But to what extent? Human life is so valuable that we, as created human beings, we don’t have the right to do this.

And the other thing is the death penalty as an act of violence. If you research it, there have been numerous botched executions. With the electric chair, sometimes the power had to be surged two or three times to kill somebody. And during the interim, the top of people’s heads were catching on fire, their eyes were popping out. With botched lethal injections, you could smell burnt flesh throughout the prison. And there have been problems with the drugs themselves. In fact, when I was watching Keith Zettlemoyer be executed, after they injected him, his body was quivering and shaking for a number of minutes. And I knew that during that period of time, there had to be some suffering.

So what is the benefit here, other than some form of retribution? We have to ask: is there a place for the death penalty in a civilized society?” - retired prison chaplain Henry G. Covert on the latest episode of (“Jesus on Death Row: Story Time with a Prison Chaplain”) ✟ 📖