The Poetic Lens, with Gordon Meade
For this episode we had the honour of hosting the wonderful poet, Gordon Meade. We were thrilled Gordon reached out to us for a collaboration!
Gordon is a Royal Literary Fund Writing Fellow and the author of numerous books, including Singing Seals, The Private Zoo, and most recently, Zoospeak which features the photography work of Canadian photojournalist and animal activist Jo-Anne McArthur. Gordon also delivers creative writing courses to vulnerable young people in a variety of settings.
We talk about Zoospeak, Gordon’s newest project called Exposed Animal Elegies, and how his life led him to speaking for animals through poetry. Gordon also kindly read three of the poems from Zoospeak, offering us the opportunity to hear them as they were meant to be heard.
3:46 Brown Bear, Germany, 2008 - p26
8:49 Macaque, Laos, 2011 - p52
18:48 Lynx, Denmark, 2016 - p94
We highly recommend viewing the video format for this episode so that you can experience the vivid imagery of Jo-Anne McArthur’s photographs alongside Gordon’s words. You can also find a link to the book *Zoospeak: Poems and Photography* below.
Meet the episode hosts:
Tiamat Warda - www.tiamatwarda.com | @TiamatWarda
Rebecca Madrid - www.rebecca-madrid.com | @RebeccaLMadrid
https://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poet/gordon-meade
https://joannemcarthur.com
https://weanimalsmedia.org
Gordon’s work:
- *Zoospeak: Poems and Photography* (Enthusiastic Press, 2020) ISBN 1916113044 https://www.enthusiasticpress.co.uk/post/zoospeak
- *The Private Zoo* (Arrowhead Press, 2008) ISBN 1904852106
- *The Singing Seals* (Chapman Publishing, 1991) ISBN 0906772338
Discussing Live Animals in Children's Education with Melvin Chan - Pt2
In this two-part episode we welcome Melvin Chan to discuss his research reviewing the impact of including live morethanhuman animals in educational programs for children and youth. Specifically with a focus on the promotion of social and emotional competencies. We consider the ways in which these kinds of programs may exclude certain populations, how the inclusion of different species might affect outcomes, and the ways in which trainers and the animal workers themselves could be affected by these programs.
Episode hosts:
Tiamat Warda - www.tiamatwarda.com | @TiamatWarda
Rebecca Madrid - www.rebecca-madrid.com | @RebeccaLMadrid
Chan, Melvin Chin-Hao. 2021. A scoping review of outcome evaluations of universal programs that incorporate live animals to promote the social and emotional competencies of children and youth. Vancouver: University of British Columbia Library. [https://doi.org/10.14288/1.0401253](https://doi.org/10.14288/1.0401253). [http://hdl.handle.net/2429/79199](http://hdl.handle.net/2429/79199)
Chan, Melvin Chin-Hao. 2017. Speech, Language and Sleep Problems in Children with Down Syndrome : A Role for Speech-Language Pathologists? Vancouver: University of British Columbia Library. [https://doi.org/10.14288/1.0354469](https://doi.org/10.14288/1.0354469)
Durlak, J.A., Weissberg, R.P., Dymnicki, A.B., Taylor, R.D. and Schellinger, K.B. (2011), The Impact of Enhancing Students’ Social and Emotional Learning: A Meta-Analysis of School-Based Universal Interventions. Child Development, 82: 405-432. [https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-8624.2010.01564.x](https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-8624.2010.01564.x)
Durlak, J.A., DuPre, E.P. Implementation Matters: A Review of Research on the Influence of Implementation on Program Outcomes and the Factors Affecting Implementation. *Am J Community Psychol* **41,** 327 (2008). [https://doi.org/10.1007/s10464-008-9165-0](https://doi.org/10.1007/s10464-008-9165-0)
Nation, M., Crusto, C., Wandersman, A., Kumpfer, K. L., Seyb
Discussing Live Animals in Children's Education with Melvin Chan - Pt1
In this two-part episode we welcome Melvin Chan to discuss his research reviewing the impact of including live morethanhuman animals in educational programs for children and youth. Specifically with a focus on the promotion of social and emotional competencies. We consider the ways in which these kinds of programs may exclude certain populations, how the inclusion of different species might affect outcomes, and the ways in which trainers and the animal workers themselves could be affected by these programs.
Episode hosts:
Tiamat Warda - www.tiamatwarda.com | @TiamatWarda
Rebecca Madrid - www.rebecca-madrid.com | @RebeccaLMadrid
Chan, Melvin Chin-Hao. 2021. A scoping review of outcome evaluations of universal programs that incorporate live animals to promote the social and emotional competencies of children and youth. Vancouver: University of British Columbia Library. [https://doi.org/10.14288/1.0401253](https://doi.org/10.14288/1.0401253). [http://hdl.handle.net/2429/79199](http://hdl.handle.net/2429/79199)
Chan, Melvin Chin-Hao. 2017. Speech, Language and Sleep Problems in Children with Down Syndrome : A Role for Speech-Language Pathologists? Vancouver: University of British Columbia Library. [https://doi.org/10.14288/1.0354469](https://doi.org/10.14288/1.0354469)
Durlak, J.A., Weissberg, R.P., Dymnicki, A.B., Taylor, R.D. and Schellinger, K.B. (2011), The Impact of Enhancing Students’ Social and Emotional Learning: A Meta-Analysis of School-Based Universal Interventions. Child Development, 82: 405-432. [https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-8624.2010.01564.x](https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-8624.2010.01564.x)
Durlak, J.A., DuPre, E.P. Implementation Matters: A Review of Research on the Influence of Implementation on Program Outcomes and the Factors Affecting Implementation. *Am J Community Psychol* **41,** 327 (2008). [https://doi.org/10.1007/s10464-008-9165-0](https://doi.org/10.1007/s10464-008-9165-0)
Nation, M., Crusto, C., Wandersman, A., Kumpfer, K. L., Seyb
Perceiving emotions of animals living in zoos with Angela Lacinak
For episode 1 of season 2 of the Shifting Lens podcast, it was a delight to have Angela Lacinak talk about her research on the perceptions that zoo visitors have of the emotions of other species, specifically elephants, living in zoos. The conversation also brought in discourse concerning the emotional lives of animals living in zoos, as well as how our understandings of this has shifted in recent years.
Find out more about Angela's work:
University of Exeter doctoral research: https://socialsciences.exeter.ac.uk/ease/people/angimillwoodlacinak/
Precision Behavior: https://www.precisionbehavior.com/
Meet the episode hosts:
Rebecca Madrid - www.rebecca-madrid.com | @RebeccaLMadrid
Tiamat Warda - www.tiamatwarda.com | @TiamatWarda
