Accidental Intellectual Podcast

05/07/2021

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15/06/2021

EPISODE 15: Dr. Hillary McBride - Producing Imperfect Work

Hillary McBride, Ph.D., RPsych, joins us to discuss her career trajectory, navigating boundaries, the importance of letting imperfect work be seen, reconnecting with curiosity, and so much more!

Dr. Hillary McBride is a therapist, researcher, speaker and writer. She is best known as co-host of “The Liturgists” podcast and host of the CBC podcast “Other People’s Problems.” But that work has only been possible with years of clinical practice as a counselor and research as a psychologist, a base of expertise that includes work at the intersection of spirituality and mental health, trauma and trauma therapies, body image, eating disorders, perinatal mental health, and the menopausal transition. Her first book, Mothers, Daughters, and Body Image: Learning to Love Ourselves as We Are, was published in 2017; she was the senior editor of a textbook which was released in 2018, Embodiment and Eating disorders: Theory, Research, Prevention, and Treatment, and her next book, This Is My Body: Embodiment and Why It Matters for Just About Everything, will be out in 2021. She has been recognized by the American Psychological Association, and the Canadian Psychological Association for her research addressing our relationships with our bodies across the life span, and her work in feminist psychology. Hillary currently teaches at the University of British Columbia and makes her home in Vancouver, British Columbia.

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/hillary-mcbride-episode

Hillary McBride, Ph.D., RPsych, joins us to discuss her career trajectory, navigating boundaries, the importance of letting imperfect work be seen, reconnecting with curiosity, and so much more!

15/06/2021

EPISODE 14: Dr. Lisa Richardson - The Power of Awareness

Lisa Richardson, MD, joins us to discuss her path into medicine, creating a better and more inclusive system of care, the importance of language, what is needed for good mentorship, and so much more!

Dr. Lisa Richardson is a mixed blood Anishinaabe physician and clinician-educator. She practices General Internal Medicine at the University Health Network in Toronto. She is the Associate Dean, Inclusion & Diversity at the University of Toronto’s Temerty Faculty of Medicine. She is also the Strategic Lead in Indigenous Health for Women’s College Hospital where she founded the Centre for Wise Practices. Dr. Richardson is a strong advocate for Indigenous health equity and Indigenous health education at the local, national and international level.

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/lisa-richadson-episode

Lisa Richardson, MD, joins us to discuss her path into medicine, creating a better and more inclusive system of care, the importance of language, what is needed for good mentorship, and so much more!

02/06/2021

Episode 13: Dr. Onye Nnorom - Follow Your North Star

Onye Nnorom, MD, MPH, FRCPC, joined us to discuss her many roles in promoting health and equity, the impacts of systemic racism on health and well-being, the wisdom and resilience in community, and so much more!

Dr. Onye Nnorom is a Family Doctor and a Public Health & Preventive Medicine specialist. She is the Associate Program Director of the Public Health & Preventive Medicine Residency Program at the University of Toronto, and is the Black Health Theme Lead and Post-Graduate Medical Education for the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Toronto. Among many other roles, Dr. Nnorom is the President of the Black Physicians' Association of Ontario. Most recently she has taken the role as the Equity, Diversity and Inclusion Lead, within the Department of Family and Community Medicine at the University of Toronto. She is also the host of a podcast called Race, Health and Happiness where she interviews successful Black, Indigenous, and other People of Color, providing wisdom on how to stay well in a “racialized world”. Being of Nigerian and Trinidadian heritage, Dr. Nnorom is particularly interested in Black community health and wellness, and racism as a social determinant of health.

⁣⁣⁣Learn more about Dr. Nnorom through her page on our website! This episode can be listened to directly from our website or from any of your favourite podcast apps!⁣⁣⁣⁣

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/onye-nnorom-episode

Dr. Onye Nnorom is a Family Doctor and a Public Health & Preventive Medicine specialist. She is the Associate Program Director of the Public Health & Preventive Medicine Residency Program at the University of Toronto, and is the Black Health Theme Lead and Post-Graduate Medical Education for the Fac...

18/05/2021

Episode 12: Jonathon Zarb - Bridging Faith and Practice

Jonathon Zarb, B.A., MPS, RP (qualifying), joined us to discuss what it means to be a spiritual health therapist, his journey to providing spiritual care in hospitals, the connection he has formed with his spirituality and sexuality, experiences caring for staff versus caring for patients, and so much more!

Jonathon Zarb holds a bachelor’s degree in Sexual Diversity Studies, Sociology and Religion from the University of Toronto, and a Masters of Pastoral Studies (MPS) with a Certificate in Spiritual Care & Psychotherapy from Knox College, which is jointly offered through the Toronto School of Theology and the University of Toronto. He is also a qualifying registered psychotherapist. Since joining William Osler Health System in 2019, Jonathon has focused on providing one-on-one and group care to patients and families. He feels called to work from a client-focused framework and does so with compassion, care and empathy. Jonathon is passionate about the intersection of spirituality and identity in regards to overall health and wellness. He has a deep interest in staff spiritual health and wellness and has designed and implemented staff wellness programs, mindfulness sessions, and one-on-one support as a part of his daily work.

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/jonathon-zarb-episode

Jonathon Zarb, B.A., MPS, RP (qualifying), joins us to discuss what it means to be a spiritual health therapist, his journey to providing spiritual care in hospitals, the connection he has formed with his spirituality and sexuality, experiences caring for staff versus caring for patients, and so muc...

18/05/2021

Episode 11 - Lina Elfaki: Piece of My Identity

Lina Elfaki, MSc, joins us to discuss health advocacy and equity, the importance of recognizing intersectionality when looking at representation in STEM, finding balance as a medical student and so much more!

Lina Elfaki is a second-year medical student at the University of Toronto (UofT). She completed her undergraduate degree in Physiology and Human Biology at UofT. For her Master of Science at the Institute of Medical Science, Lina worked with Dr. Howard Leong-Poi at St. Michael’s Hospital to study a novel gene therapy for aortic aneurysms. More recently, she has been passionate about equity-seeking cardiovascular research. Beyond academics, as an immigrant Black woman, she has been promoting gender and racial equity in healthcare and STEM education. She is the inaugural Vice President of Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion at UofT’s Medical Society pushing for systemic and cultural changes to curriculum, student wellness, and admissions. During the COVID-19 pandemic, Lina has been focusing on community-based health promotion to support her Black community in Toronto. In her free time, Lina loves to dance and walk by the lake, even at freezing cold temperatures.

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/lina-elfaki-episode

Lina Elfaki, MSc, joins us to discuss health advocacy and equity, the importance of recognizing intersectionality when looking at representation in STEM, finding balance as a medical student and so much more!

18/05/2021

Episode 10: Asante Haughton - Surrounded by Stories

Asante Haughton, BSc., Speaker and Mental Health Advocate, joined us to discuss his advocacy work in the areas of mental health and crisis response reform, storytelling through music, doing what works for you and so much more!

Asante Haughton is a mental health advocate devoted to changing the world. He is focused on amplifying the stories of everyday people to illuminate gaps in the system while working to build bridges between community members and policy makers in order to find solutions to challenges together. Asante is the co-founder of the Reach Out Response Network, an organization advocating for non-police led mobile crisis emergency response. Asante is also a 2x TEDx speaker and a CAMH Difference Maker, awarded with the distinction of being one of the top 150 mental health influencers in Canada. When Asante is not speaking and advocating he is designing, managing and facilitating peer support training programs at Stella's Place, a youth mental health service agency in Toronto and hosting the web show, Cypher, which turns peer support stories into original songs by Juno nominated musicians. Young at heart, silly, self-deprecating and able to find a sports analogy for virtually anything, Asante tries not to take himself too seriously despite being engaged in the serious work of changemaking!

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/asante-haughton-episode

07/04/2021

Episode 9: Dr. Ritika Goel - Uplifting Community

Ritika Goel, MD, joined us to discuss her journey into medicine, the tremendous power of privilege, her role in mentorship and activism, uplifting marginalized voices and communities, and so much more!

Dr. Ritika Goel is a family physician in the Department of Family and Community Medicine at the University of Toronto working with the St. Michael's Hospital Academic Family Health Team and doing shelter-based work with Inner City Health Associates. She is the Faculty Lead for Social Accountability at the Department of Family and Community Medicine, and Chair of the Social Accountability Working Group at the College of Family Physicians of Canada.

Dr. Goel has been engaged in health-related activism, public speaking and writing on issues at the intersection of health and social justice throughout her career. She has organized with Canadian Doctors for Medicare, the OHIP for All campaign and Doctors for Defunding the Police. Dr. Goel is passionate about bringing lenses of anti-oppression and social justice into medicine, including medical education, continuing professional development and institutional change.

⁣⁣⁣Learn more about Dr. Goel through her page on our website (link below)! This episode can be listened to directly from our website or from any of your favourite podcast apps!⁣⁣⁣⁣

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/ritika-goel-episode

Ritika Goel, MD, joins us to discuss her journey into medicine, the tremendous power of privilege, her role in mentorship and activism, uplifting marginalized voices and communities, and so much more!

07/04/2021

Episode 8: Dr. LaRon Nelson - Resist the Urge to Silence Yourself📢

LaRon E. Nelson, PhD, RN, FNP, joined us to discuss his journey into nursing and academia, his incredible involvement in research across three countries, the importance of standing up for what you believe in, and so much more!

Dr. LaRon Nelson is a public health nurse and family nurse practitioner. He is the Independence Foundation Associate Professor of Nursing and Associate Dean of Global Affairs and Planetary Health at Yale University. He is also co-director of the Research Education Initiative for Diverse Scholars (REIDS) Fellowship program in the Yale Center for Interdisciplinary Research on AIDS.

In Canada, Dr. Nelson is the current holder of the O.H.T.N. Research Chair in Implementation Science with Black Communities based at St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto. He has received numerous honors including a Canadian Rising Star in Global Health, the Excellence in HIV Prevention Award by the Association of Nurses in AIDS Care and the President’s Trailblazer Award by the National Black Nurses Association.

He is also an Associate Editor for the Journal of Adolescent Health and an Associate Editor for the Global Health section of BMC Public Health. Dr. Nelson has active research projects in the United States, Canada, and Ghana, and his research has been funded by the National Institutes of Health, Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, Canadian Institute for Health Research, Grand Challenges Canada and the Ontario HIV Treatment Network.

⁣⁣⁣Learn more about Dr. Nelson through his page on our website (link below)! This episode can be listened to directly from our website or from any of your favourite podcast apps!⁣⁣⁣⁣

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/laron-nelson-episode

LaRon E. Nelson, PhD, RN, FNP,  joins us to discuss his journey into academia, his incredible involvement in research across three countries, the importance of standing up for what you believe in, and so much more!

23/03/2021

Episode 7: Dr. Allison Crawford - Making Meaning in Medicine

Allison Crawford, MD, PhD., joined us to discuss how she uses the arts to help make meaning in medicine, the proliferation of telemedicine and virtual care, the importance of recognizing what brings you joy, and so much more!

Dr. Crawford is a psychiatrist and Associate Professor in the Department of Psychiatry, University of Toronto, where she is Associate Chief of Virtual Mental Health and Outreach at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health. She is co-Chair of ECHO Ontario; and co-Chair of ECHO Ontario Mental Health, and is also the Chief Medical Officer of the Canada Su***de Prevention Service. Allison’s focus is on increasing access to quality mental health care, including through the integration of virtual care.

Dr. Crawford has worked as a psychiatrist in Nunavut for over 15 years, and coordinates psychiatric services for the Government of Nunavut. She works with the Inuit Circumpolar Council and the Arctic Council on circumpolar wellness and su***de prevention initiatives. Allison also has a PhD in English literature, through HeART Lab she advances the use of art, research, and technology to engage community, patients, and providers to co-create compassionate health care.

⁣⁣⁣Learn more about Dr. Crawford through her page on our website (link below)! This episode can be listened to directly from our website or from any of your favourite podcast apps!⁣⁣⁣⁣

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/allison-crawford-episode

Allison Crawford, MD, Ph.D., joins us to discuss how she uses the arts to help make meaning in medicine, the proliferation of telemedicine and virtual care, the importance of recognizing what brings you joy, and so much more!

22/03/2021

23/02/2021

Episode 5: Jaclyn Siegel - Feminist First

Jaclyn A. Siegel, M.S. Psychology, joined us to discuss her research on gender, bodies and social justice, how her personal mental health journey has influenced her work, learning to balance the demands of academia with her values and relationships, and so much more!

Jaclyn Siegel is a doctoral fellow in the Network for Economic and Social Trends at Western University, where she is a PhD candidate in social psychology. Her research explores a variety of topics related to gender roles, sexual objectification, eating disorders, body image, stigma, and collective action. Jaclyn is also a science communicator, and she hosts a podcast for which she interviews feminist scholars about their gender-related research. Through her research, advocacy, and activism, she is committed to making the world a better, safer place for women.

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/jaclyn-siegel-episode

23/02/2021

Episode 4: Dr. Carolyn Lennox - Coming Together

Carolyn Lennox, Ph.D., C.Psych., joined us to discuss the changing landscape and importance of school-based mental health services, her career trajectory into School Psychology, the value in following your passion and interests, and so much more!

Dr. Carolyn Lennox is a registered Clinical and School Psychologist, and current Manager of Psychology Services in the TDSB (Toronto District School Board), West Region, Learning Centre 4. She received her M.Phil. in Clinical Psychology at the University of London, England and completed her Ph.D. in Clinical-Developmental Psychology at York University. She is a member of the Canadian Psychological Association | Société canadienne de psychologie and the Ontario Psychological Association (OPA), as well as the Executive Committee of the Psychology in Education section of OPA.

Dr. Lennox is the president of the Association of Chief Psychologists with Ontario School Boards and co-chair of the Cross-Sectoral Psychology Working Group on Learning Disabilities, which resulted in the OPA Guidelines for Assessment and Diagnosis. Her past work experience includes Manager of Clinical Services at the Geneva Centre for Children with Autism, and School Psychologist with the Peel District School Board where she was a member of the Autism Team providing system-wide professional development on ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder). Dr. Lennox also served as Board Liaison for the program standards pilot on PDD (Pervasive Developmental Disorder)/ASD which focused on curriculum, instruction and special education support services. Additionally, she is a past member of the Board of Directors of the OPA. Dr. Lennox’s clinical interests include Autism, Learning Disabilities, dyslexia and the reading process, and resilience.

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/carolyn-lennox-episode

26/01/2021

Episode 3: Dr. Lesley Tarasoff - Paying it Forward

Lesley Tarasoff, Ph.D., joined us to discuss her research and why it is so meaningful to her, boundary setting in academia, the importance of and wonderful things that come from sharing one’s story, and so much more!

Dr. Tarasoff is a Canadian Institutes of Health Research-funded Postdoctoral Research Fellow in the Department of Health and Society at the Uoft Scarborough and the Azrieli Adult Neurodevelopmental Centre at CAMH in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Primarily using qualitative methods, her program of research is concerned with understanding and addressing sexual, reproductive, perinatal, and mental health and health care disparities and inequities experienced by populations that have been historically overlooked and often stigmatized, namely women with disabilities and sexual minority women. She holds a Ph.D. in Public Health Sciences from the Dalla Lana School of Public Health at the University of Toronto. Dr. Tarasoff also holds an M.A. in Women and Gender Studies from the University of Toronto and a B.A. in History and Women’s Studies from Bishop’s University. She grew up in the beautiful Slocan Valley in the West Kootenay region of British Columbia.

⁣⁣⁣Learn more about Lesley through her page on our website (link below), where you will find links to her Twitter, research papers, research initiatives she is involved in, and more! This episode can be listened to directly from our website or from any of your favourite podcast apps!⁣⁣⁣⁣

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/lesley-tarasoff-episode

Lesley A. Tarasoff, Ph.D., joins us to discuss her research and why it is so meaningful to her, boundary setting in academia, the importance of and wonderful things that come from sharing one’s story, and so much more!

12/01/2021

SEASON 2 DOUBLE PREMIERE

Episode 2: Rachel Cooper - Changing the Narrative

Rachel joined us to discuss her path to academia, the importance of diverse voices in bioethics, her decision to speak publicly about her mother's medically assisted death, the ups and downs of virtual learning at the graduate level, and so much more!

Rachel Cooper is a Master of Bioethics candidate at Harvard Medical School, and a Fulbright Canada Student awart recipient The Fulbright Program. She received her Honours BA in social development studies from the University of Waterloo. Rachel’s academic interests include psychiatric ethics, medical education, patient engagement and qualitative research. She has been involved in many mental health initiatives across Ontario as an educator, researcher, advocate and leader.


Rachel is energized by the pursuit of information and knowledge in all forms, but she particularly enjoys podcasts and documentary films. Beyond her work, Rachel spends most of her free time with her toddler nephew, who is teaching her new ways to be curious about the world.

You can find Rachel on Twitter , where she likes to tweet about mentorship, podcasts, bioethics and being a grad student in a pandemic.

Learn more about Rachel through her page on our website (link below). This episode can be listened to directly from our website or from any of your favourite podcast apps!⁣⁣⁣⁣

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/rachel-cooper-episode

Rachel Cooper, B.A., joins us to discuss her path to academia, the importance of diverse voices in bioethics, her decision to speak publicly about her mother's medically assisted death, the ups and downs of virtual learning at the graduate level, and so much more!

12/01/2021

SEASON 2 DOUBLE PREMIERE

Episode 1: Tiyondah Fante-Coleman - Keeper of Stories

In our first episode of the season, Tiyondah joined us to discuss her work with the Pathways to Care project, barriers to care that exist for Black youth, her hopes for a more inclusive and equitable future, and so much more!

Tiyondah recently completed her MA in Community Psychology (2019) and her B.Sc. in Health Sciences (2016) at Wilfrid Laurier University. She currently works as a Researcher at the Pathways to Care project at Black Health Alliance, an initiative that aims to increase access to mental healthcare services for Black youth in Ontario. Passionate about social justice and health equity, Tiyondah's research interests include exploring access to health care, mental health, and the cultural influences of sexuality, especially among young African, Caribbean, and Black people. In September 2021, Tiyondah will begin her PhD at the Dalla Lana School of Public Health. In her spare time, Tiyondah can be found hanging out on the couch with her puppy, Sambuca.

⁣⁣⁣Learn more about Tiyondah through her page on our website (link below). This episode can be listened to directly from our website or from any of your favourite podcast apps!⁣⁣⁣⁣

https://www.accidentalintellectual.com/tiyondah-fante-coleman-episode

Tiyondah Fante-Coleman, M.A., joins us to discuss her work with the Pathways to Care project, barriers to care that exist for Black youth, her hopes for a more inclusive and equitable future, and so much more!

31/12/2020

As we prepare to head into a New Year (and hopefully a more fruitful one, we would like to share some exciting news!

We are going to be kicking off Season 2 by releasing not one, but TWO brand new episodes on January 12th. We are so excited to share this new content with you, so mark your calendars!

Finally, the PodSquad would like to wish you a happy and healthy New Year 🥳🎉

We look forward to what 2021 brings!

11/12/2020

! As the holidays draw near, the PodSquad wants to show you, the listeners, how grateful we are for your continuous support and patience.

Please check out our most recent *Instagram post* for a chance to win one of TWO Accidental Intellectual mugs. Each mug will be filled with additional treats for the winners.

The raffle will close on Monday, December 21st and is open to participants across Canada. Prizes will be delivered through contactless drop off or by mail (depending on location).

Winners will be selected at random and announced via Instagram, so be sure to keep your eyes peeled and to check back!

Finally... We are excited to announce that new episodes will be coming to you this January, so stay tuned!!

2020 has been challenging, least to say. The entire Accidental Intellectual team hopes that you have been able to stay safe during these unprecedented times and that wish all of you a very happy holiday season.

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20/11/2020

Last, but definitely not least, please give a warm welcome to Lauren, our Captain of Multitasking! Lauren will be responsible for the important behind-the-scenes operations tasks on the Pod, such as scheduling, managing finances, and much more! Lauren is a first year PhD student in the School & Clinical Child Psychology program at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education, and her research explores the ways in which mental health issues are addressed in the youth justice system. She’s currently conducting program evaluation research of youth mental health courts in Toronto.

The most beautiful part of academia to Lauren is meeting others who share a love of learning and being able to learn from colleagues who pursue different passions. And like any of us, Lauren experiences failure in her daily life: “I submitted a paper in the summer and it got rejected from the journal. Although it was disappointing, I have pivoted and am now working on redoing the paper with a new team!”. Persistence is key :)

Welcome to the team, Lauren!

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18/11/2020

Say hello to Holly, one of our new PodSquad members, who will be taking on the role of Accessibility Aficionado. Holly will be ensuring that our content is accessible to all! Holly is a first year PhD student in the School & Clinical Child Psychology program at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education, and her research focuses on predictors of nonsuicidal self-injury among adolescents and emerging adults.

We asked Holly to share how she came to decide on a career path as a scientist-clinician: “Being a very curiosity driven person, I became fascinated in my undergraduate degree with the ‘grey areas’ that are found when children and adolescents experience difficulties. The more I learned, the more I wondered about how we can navigate these grey areas in clinical work and research. I love how academia challenges me to adapt the way I think, in addition to building what I know. As a researcher, I find comfort and excitement in the idea that I will never fully figure things out. As a clinician, I am in awe of the positive impact of just trying to see the world through a child and teenager’s eyes.”

Welcome to the team, Holly!

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16/11/2020

To kick off our upcoming season 2, we would like to introduce our newest members! Give a warm welcome to Manon, she will be assuming the role of Social Media Butterfly and will be keeping all of our listeners up to date on our latest content through our various social media platforms. Manon is a 2nd year MSc Candidate in the department of Laboratory Medicine and Pathobiology, University of Toronto. Her research focuses on vascular biology.

Manon shared why one particular Accidental Intellectual episode resonated with her (and is part of the reason why she joined the PodSquad!): "My favourite episode is #5: Take a Stance, featuring Dr. Saadia Sediqzadah. The wide range of topics and personal experiences discussed in this episode highlighted some of the hardships of being a female leader in academia and the stigma that still exists around mental health, but what particularly struck me about this episode was our shared experience of some of the reactions elicited by our names. My ethnicity is Chinese, but I was adopted into a French/Canadian family. I have personally experienced many microaggressions related to my name and the face that does not particularly match it. Growing up, this did not bother me much as I was conditioned to take these comments as a joke and to think that the individual was unaware of my background. As Dr. Sediqzadah put it, I don't believe that there was always malicious intent behind the comments, however, there have been some uncomfortable instances. Now I am more confident when correcting someone who mispronounces my name, or explaining my origin when they ask, "where are you from?" which is often followed by, "but where are you REALLY from?". I believe discussing the emotional response that one might feel after what might seem to be a "meaningless" comment is important so that we can educate others and break down ethnic barriers. This is why I love Accidental Intellectual. The interviews are raw and unfiltered. Uncomfortable topics and unspoken truths are often covered in a non-judgemental, safe space, which is something that doesn't often occur in academia."

Welcome to the team, Manon!

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