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The Listen Podcast Exploring the subtleties of culture and compassion in every conversation. Hosted by Kate Jetmore, an

01/02/2023

You know how kids on TV can be so snarky and sarcastic and sharp? Animator Elizabeth Ito set out to create something that was more naturalistic. Something that would hold a mirror up to children and show them that the way they talk is already great. That their imperfections come together to make something that is… perfect. Whether or not you have kids, or are a kid, do yourself a favor and check out Ito’s City of Ghosts on Netflix. You won’t be disappointed. https://thelistenpodcast.com/.../animator-elizabeth-ito.../

10/01/2023

Rarely have I spoken with a person who is more rooted than my guest Onkoba Ongeri. He was taught by his grandmother to look to nature for guidance, and he has followed her advice throughout his life, in good times and in bad. His art is a testament to her wisdom, featuring as it does so many elements of the natural world around him in his native Kenya. https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/onkoba-ongeri-draws-on-nature/



04/01/2023

We kicked off Season 8 of The Listen Podcast by speaking with Shelly de Vito about the creative space she and her husband James have created in an ancient mill in rural France. When they began to revive the space over 10 years ago, the couple (both artists in their own right) had to start from zero. The property’s many outbuildings made it possible for them to host artists in a variety of disciplines and they were lucky enough to attract some very impressive names from the get-go. The works of up-and-coming artists were then displayed alongside those of more established artists, resulting in a gradual increase in name recognition, community and even a local economy. Shelly and I talked about how the life of an artist in Europe compares to a similar career in the States. We also discussed the unique energy she and James bring to the project and how it is understood, and sometimes misunderstood, by the locals. It was interesting to compare notes (she in France, me in Spain) about how the arts are underwritten, and the difference between art being “free” and art being “accessible”. Shelly believes the contemporary arts are vehicles for humanity, and I couldn’t agree more. https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/season-eight-episode-one-shelly-de-vito-on-creating-space/



31/12/2022

I love speaking with fellow expats, especially when so many elements of our personal stories mirror each other. In the case of Lance Tooks, those points of overlap are many. We both have a connection to New York City, we both studied music, we both love art, we both moved to Spain after 9/11, we both love Prince. But perhaps the strongest point we have in common is an appreciation and respect for simplicity. Find out what makes this artist tick on The Listen Podcast (S17 E1). https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/illustrator-lance-tooks-on-risking-your-comfort/




28/12/2022

When Casey Mallinckrodt joined us on The Listen Podcast to discuss her work as a conservator of art objects, the world was reeling after the murder of George Floyd. Our conversation took a deep dive into the need to allow disenfranchised communities to speak up loud and clear for what they need, and then follow through by honoring those demands. In Casey’s work, this dynamic comes into play when engaging with indigenous communities, around African art objects or Native American funerary objects. Whatever the scenario, as Casey made clear, the goal of an art conservator is the long-term preservation of cultural heritage. We talked about the differences and similarities between conservation and restoration, the various materials used in exhibitions and how to ensure they don’t damage the artwork, and the age-old question of pest control. https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/season-eight-episode-two-casey-mallinckrodt-on-the-ethics-of-conservation/



26/12/2022

Of course I loved learning about the sculptures Derick Melander makes. His attention to detail as he carefully folds the used clothing he builds these huge structures with, placing each item in the perfect spot. But I also loved hearing the stories of how he came to be the artist he is today. The tiny studio his parents gifted him with, and how he papered its walls and explored all manner of materials there. The larger studio he had later, where he worked with suitcases and how they are packed and what they are packed with – a natural evolution toward working with clothing today. But perhaps my favorite moment in our conversation came when he shared a ghost story with me. A visitation from a family member, which has stayed with him all these years. What is art, what makes an artist, and how can we honor the artists we are becoming? Join Derick and me as we explore these questions and more on The Listen Podcast. https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/artist-derick-melander-on-getting-unstuck/



ON ARTFrom now through mid-January, we’ll be sharing interviews all about Art. From printmaking in Kenya to the true sig...
20/12/2022

ON ART

From now through mid-January, we’ll be sharing interviews all about Art. From printmaking in Kenya to the true significance of art conservation, these six compelling conversations are all rooted in culture and compassion. Join us for some of the most popular interviews from The Listen Podcast’s archive, all On Art. Check out our podcasts here: https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast-episodes/

11/12/2022

Sara Turman, a native of Austin based in Paris, joined us for the second conversation in our Adventure series to tell us all about sailing across the Atlantic with her partner Peter. As we recorded the interview in early April 2020, we touched on how the coronavirus was affecting her family and France as a whole. How interesting to have this record of what things looked like in those early days. Sara’s life-long passion for adventure found its expression in boating, which brings together several key elements: travel, home and risk. After Peter came through a health scare, the two decided it was now or never. They bought a boat, named it Opsimath (“a person who continues to learn late in life”) and started their preparations. Peter took on the bluer jobs, while Sara got to work feathering their nest, making sure they would be able to enjoy delicious meals and read their favorite books in comfort. She walked us through the positive parts of their trip, from fresh lobster bought in a Basque harbor and grilled on deck, to the unique ocean approaches in each town. Negative aspects included tricky sleepless nights and only one package of butter in all of Cape Verde as they were gathering final provisions for the crossing. Sara was clear that expressing your dreams out loud is the first step in making them come true. Would you agree?
Listen here! https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/season-five-episode-two-american-sara-turman-on-setting-sail-from-france-to-travel-the-world/


05/12/2022

I have known Athena Lambrinidou for many years, and knew she had an impressive background in environmental activism. It turns out I had only scratched the surface of her amazing history, which she generously shares in this interview. From her years at sea with Greenpeace to her return to Greece to design and run environmental projects at the request of George Papandreou, her passion is clear. Join us for this realistic but hopeful conversation on the climate crisis and its many effects.
Listen here: https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/environmental-activist-athena-lambrinidou-on-simple-solutions/


29/11/2022

About this time last year, I opened the New Yorker and found myself reading an incredibly engrossing article about the flow of migrants to Europe across the Mediterranean. What was new to me in this story was not only the Libyan groups who capture these migrants and lock them up without due process in Libyan prisons, but the role the EU is playing as it outsources its migration patrol. I immediately reached out to Ian Urbina, the author of the story, who graciously agreed to join me on The Listen Podcast and talk about the broader scope of his work, through his non-profit The Outlaw Ocean Project. From the perilous journey of desperate people in search of a better life to how our oceans can help us solve the climate crisis, our conversation went far beyond what I had envisioned. I hope yo https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/ian-urbina-on-the-outlaw-ocean/

25/11/2022

It’s not often that a guest brings me to tears, in fact I think this might be a first. My conversation with Nancy Dimmock was truly unforgettable, and I suspect it will stay with you for a long time, as it has with me. Her description of her time in the Peace Corps, where she worked on a feedlot project in Lesotho, is incredibly interesting. But Nancy’s life as whole, from her childhood in the Belgian Congo to her calling as a caregiver to vulnerable children is an inspiration. Join me as she walks us through the role the Peace Corps played in the context of her amazing journey. Listen here>> https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/s15-e2-nancy-dimmock-on-her-peace-corps-beginnings-in-lesotho/





17/11/2022

Five weeks after his 1991 wedding, Willie White and his new bride were working in Saudi Arabia. Over the next 30 years, they would travel, live and work in more than 50 countries, she as an engineer, he as an English teacher. These days, they are hunkered down in their house by the Chesapeake Bay with their two dogs. In addition to travel, Willie loves all aspects of boating, from sailing to canoeing, as well as hiking, camping, and seeking adventure. Currently, he teaches online for an English school in Thailand, and is a Historical Interpreter for The National Park Service at Fort McHenry National Monument and Shrine.

14/11/2022

Ats & Kätlyn are an inspiring couple from Estonia who cycled across Europe in 2016-2017. As a boy, Ats took summer trips with his dad, but this was Kätlyn’s very first time on a cycling tour. Both shared with me how they were scared leading up to the trip, and not at all sure they would reach the Atlantic coast in Portugal, let alone complete the round-trip journey they had planned. But what a trip it was! They learned the importance of accepting every invitation and told me about incredible hosts in Latvia, Albania and Portugal (plus our house in Spain!). Ats emphasized that all the best encounters were a direct result of the ongoing troubles he had with his bike, proving that you just never know. They celebrated the 5000km mark in a Spanish desert with cheap champagne and tortilla chips, and drowned their sorrows in Austria with cheap wine and gummy bears. (Hmm I’m sensing a theme here…) The trip changed them both in many ways, including an increased appreciation for nature, people and culture, a boost in confidence, a decreased need for material things, and the certainty that adventure must take priority in life. Listen here>> https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/season-five-episode-one-estonians-ats-katlyn-on-cycling-across-europe-and-back-again/
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05/11/2022

Thom Sesma & Penny Daulton have hiked the Camino de Santiago in the north of Spain on numerous occasions. This was a very special conversation, as it allowed me to share parts of my own experience on the Camino in 2001, where I fell in love with my husband. We began with an explanation of the history of the Camino, and of pilgrimages in general. Thom first learned about the path when he saw the movie The Way. Penny was immediately convinced that they had to make the journey, and after three years of delays, they finally made it for the first time in 2016. We talked about the joys of allowing yourself to get lost and how the Camino has been compared in that way to a labyrinth. Thom and Penny talked us through a day in the life of a peregrino, and highlighted a key moment: getting your clothes washed and on the line while there is still enough sunlight to dry them. We discussed the different types of lodging available, the magical and serendipitous connections that happen along the way, and overcoming physical challenges. I was so touched by all the stories they shared, which were powerful reminders of the common humanity that surrounds us, if only we will open our eyes.
https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/season-five-episode-three-americans-thom-sesma-and-penny-daulton-on-hiking-the-camino-de-santiago/

30/10/2022

My guest Laura Vander Kerken dialed in from her home in Belgium, where she lives with her Spanish husband, Mario. We first met when the couple was biking through Europe and spent a night in our guestroom. I was knocked over by her skill in both English and Spanish, and couldn’t wait to have her on the show for Season 4, when we focused on Language. In fact, as Laura tells us in the interview, she was raised speaking Flemish and like all other Belgian kids she studied three different foreign languages in high school (English, French and German). Other topics we covered included the subtitle-vs-dubbing debate, the pop-vs-coke debate, the patience she learned while teaching Dutch to refugees, and bicultural marriage. She also admitted to being a bit of an “exchange addict” and walked us through her time in France, the UK, Spain and the US on various study-abroad programs. Laura believes the more languages you speak, the more open you are, and I couldn’t agree more. Listen here>> https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/season-four-episode-one-language-laura/
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24/10/2022

Arwa Damon tells it like it is. The world’s problems are overwhelming, and many of us deal with it by hiding from them or averting our eyes. But we’ve got to lean in. To acknowledge the pain and suffering in the world, to talk about it and be honest about the realities of today’s situation, and then to be kind. As she puts it: “We really shouldn’t underestimate what the impact of literally, and it seems so basic, but literally what just being nice can do to somebody who has lost everything, and who has sunk to depths that none of us can even imagine.” Tune in to find out how Arwa came to found INARA, a non-profit dedicated to ensuring that war-wounded children can get the medical attention they need. And join me in donating to INARA at https://www.inara.org/. Even the smallest bit helps. Listen to the full episode here: https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/arwa-damon-on-the-power-of-kindness/

18/10/2022

For years, I’ve wanted to speak with Jennifer Seely about her time in the Peace Corps, and I finally got my chance! She spoke about the program’s beginnings and its three main goals, then went on to describe her personal experience as a volunteer in a health clinic in Côte d'Ivoire. Her time in the Peace Corps paved the way for a career in African democracy and development. She earned her PhD in the field, has authored books on the subject, and has been a Fulbright recipient for research in Benin, Togo and Ghana.

https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/s15-e1-jennifer-seely-on-serving-in-the-peace-corps-in-cote-divoire/

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08/10/2022

As a college student in Wisconsin, Kelly Rusch was challenged to look at both sides of the sweat shop debate. Yes, it was terrible to subject employees to inhumane conditions for extremely low pay. But shouldn’t we also consider what would happen to these people if we suddenly swooped in and eliminated their only source of income? This was the moment Kelly began to realize there was so much about the world she wasn’t aware of, and resolved to do what she could to change that dynamic. She started by joining the Peace Corps, where she served in El Salvador, learning many lessons the hard (and humorous) way. Hear about funny misunderstandings as her Spanish was improving, what happened to the garden she planted with the best of intentions, and how she used family photos to find her place in this new community. And I couldn’t resist asking her about the adventures she’s had post-PC, including through-hiking the Appalachian Trail, where she met her husband, and how they’re raising their kids to be citizens of the world. Join us!

https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/s15-e3-kelly-rusch-on-serving-in-the-peace-corps-in-el-salvador/



30/09/2022

When Matt & Laurel Green hopped on a plane to go teach in Spain in 2006, they had no idea where their adventure would take them. In fact, they would end up teaching at international schools in Dubai and Istanbul, and in Taipei where they currently live. Our conversation provided a very interesting window into what this Covid year has looked like for those living in Asia. It also gave me a chance to ask about some of their most memorable trips over the years, including six days on the Trans-Siberian Railway, a visit to the Taj Mahal, and a sunset cruise on the Mekong River. But my favorite part of the interview focused on their memories of the Gezi Park protests while living in Istanbul.
Listen here! https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/s13-e3-matt-laurel-green-on-seeing-things-for-themselves/

ON TRAVELFrom now through mid-December, we’ll be sharing interviews all about Travel. From international teachers to Pea...
29/09/2022

ON TRAVEL

From now through mid-December, we’ll be sharing interviews all about Travel. From international teachers to Peace Corps volunteers and full-on adventurers, these twelve compelling conversations are rooted in culture and compassion. Join us for some of the most popular interviews from The Listen Podcast’s archive, all On Travel.

24/09/2022

Yolanda Castellón’s first pregnancy went exactly to plan, but after a series of problems during the birth itself, she and her husband had to say goodbye to their little boy just eight days after he was born. As she told me in our conversation, the experience transformed her into a mother, and part of her challenge lay in learning how to express her love when her son was not available to her in a physical form. Instead of ignoring her grief, or somehow longing for it to disappear, she learned to “grow around it”, like a tree around a park bench or a fence. Her son’s death brought her closer to her own life, and even gave her a purpose. As a result, she decided to become a life and loss coach, and now uses her experience to guide other families who are going through a similar loss, helping them to transform their pain into strength. Join us for this powerful interview, the final conversation in our Parenthood series.

20/09/2022

What a joy to dig way down deep in the archives to our very first interview! I remember it like it was yesterday, setting up in my living room, excitement running high for this new project.
For season one, I spoke with three non-Spanish friends raising their kids here in Cuenca, Spain. First up was Agnieszka, a Polish woman who is married to a Spaniard and raising two little girls. She shared the process of choosing names that would sound good in both languages. She also remembered weighing the pros and cons of whether or not to pierce her newborn daughters’ ears like most Spanish parents. We discussed various healthcare systems (Polish, Spanish, American) and compared maternity leave in each country. And we wrapped up by talking about some of the best parts of raising our children in Spain – the healthy structure around mealtimes and food, and bilingualism. https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/agnieszka-a-daughter-of-poland-mothers-in-spain/



16/09/2022

Michèle Franche grew up in a bilingual home, learned a third language here in Spain, and is raising her children with the same three languages – English, French and Spanish. Her aim has always been to keep it fun, and she has never insisted that her kids be perfect or prohibited them from speaking whatever language they please. We discussed the curious phenomenon of how some states of mind are better expressed in certain languages. And we compared the stigma experienced by immigrants in America, all of whom are bilingual, with the relative prestige bestowed upon our bilingual children, simply because they are growing up in the right place at the right time, and with white skin. Have a listen by clicking the link https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/michele-a-canadian-on-mothering-in-three-languages/


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13/09/2022

In Season 3 we spoke with couples who lived abroad at first, but moved back to their home countries once it was time to raise their families. In 2008, Javi & Silvia took the plunge and moved from their native Spain to London, where they initially planned to spend just a year or two, but that short stay turned into nine years abroad! At first, life in London was tough, but their English quickly improved and they learned that in the UK, “if you work hard, it pays off.” We discussed how things changed after the Brexit vote, when they no longer felt welcome as foreigners, and after their daughter was born, when they began to realize how far away they were from family. They shared their impressions of the public healthcare systems and maternity leave in each country, as well as the shock they felt after moving back to small-town Spain. But they couldn’t be happier raising their children near family. You’ll find a link to the conversation in the comments.

04/09/2022

Becoming a parent is always a whirlwind of emotions, but when you give birth in a foreign land, the changes can be overwhelming. My guest Carrie Frais chose to deal with this challenge by gathering information and organizing it on a platform that would eventually become MumAbroad, one of Europe's leading online resources for international families. In addition to discussing our experiences as mothers abroad, we also mused about what it must have been like for our own parents when we moved to Spain, and wondered what traditions and customs our children will choose to take forward with them into their lives. The main point we agreed on is that we want our children to be happy, whole and fulfilled.

https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/carrie-frais-on-embracing-motherhood/


03/09/2022

Jessica Lorion and her husband want to have children. But when Jessica was diagnosed with an auto-immune disease several years ago, that dream had to be put on hold. Her reaction to this unexpected speed bump is inspiring indeed. Instead of feeling discouraged or sinking into a depression, she has chosen to look at the delay as an opportunity to plan and study, gathering as much information as possible to arm herself for the day when she will ultimately get pregnant and become a mom. The result of her fact-gathering project is Mamas in Training, a podcast that supports pregnant women and aspiring moms on their journey. Join us as she shares the best advice she’s received along the way, the gaps she still hopes to fill in, and some very good news!

https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/jessica-lorion-on-learning-to-be-a-mother/

02/09/2022

It’s hard to fight old traditions, especially if they are as deeply-rooted as bullfighting is in Spain. No one is more familiar with this truth than our guest Sue Ramiro-Ibáñez ramiro who joined us for our very first season of The Listen Podcast. A native of Newcastle upon Tyne, Sue worked as an RSPCA Inspector investigating animal cruelty before moving to Spain in 2011.

Needless to say, this animal-lover is completely against bullfighting and sometimes struggles when transmitting these values to her children. After all, they are half-Spanish and live in a country where toros are perceived as a cultural asset, not as torture.
https://thelistenpodcast.com/podcast/sue-a-british-animal-lover-on-mothering-in-spain/


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