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Just Get A Real Job A podcast where recent Screenwriting graduate Jamie Mackinlay chats to various emerging creatives fr

🚨 Episode 140 🚨Thrilled to be joined this week by Katie Sayer whose writing credits for TV and radio include The Skewer,...
03/07/2024

🚨 Episode 140 🚨

Thrilled to be joined this week by Katie Sayer
whose writing credits for TV and radio include The Skewer, Dead Ringers, The Now Show, The Naked Week, and One Person Found This Helpful. Katie is about to take her new play, Love’s a Beach, to the Edinburgh Fringe.

Katie chatted with us about everything from:

• Writing for TV and radio.
• Her biggest influences.
• How Love’s a Beach came about and what people
can expect from it.
• Her pathway into writing.
• How she looks after her mental health.
• What it’s like writing for a variety of
different mediums and much more.

Listen Here: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=d9f430a6-f963-4092-b5db-89dba1201b5c

Really enjoyed recording this one and hope everyone has a great rest of the week 🫶

🚨NEW EPISODE 🚨Thrilled to be joined this week by  formerly of the chart-topping band ‘Rixton’. Jake is about to take his...
26/06/2024

🚨NEW EPISODE 🚨

Thrilled to be joined this week by formerly of the chart-topping band ‘Rixton’. Jake is about to take his debut show ‘Neporrhoids’ to the Edinburgh Fringe 💥

We had a fascinating chat about everything from:

• How ‘Neporrhoids’ came about and what people
can expect from it.
• The realities of fame.
• What he learned from his time in bands ‘Rixton’ and
‘Push Baby’.
• Finding purpose in what you do.
• How he feels about the term ‘Nepo Baby’.
• The current state of the music industry.
• Putting your mental health first and much more.

Loved having Jake on the show and was a refreshingly honest chat! You can listen here:
https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast

Have a brilliant week folks and hope you enjoy ❤️

🚨 WE ARE BACK 🚨In Episode 136, we are joined once again by  🔥Ashley recently launched her new YouTube channel , and it w...
05/06/2024

🚨 WE ARE BACK 🚨

In Episode 136, we are joined once again by 🔥
Ashley recently launched her new YouTube channel , and it was great to hear about what she has been up to since she was last on the podcast in October last year.

We chatted about everything from:

■ The reality of being a content creator.
■ Creating an audience on YouTube.
■ Why soft skills are so helpful in a creative career.
■ Embracing mistakes.
■ Synesthesia and Neurodivergence.
■ Launching & much more 🎬

It's so good to be back, and thanks for all the listens and engagement we've had. Even when we've been away, it means the world 🙏

So excited about the upcoming run and hope you enjoy this interesting chat!

Available whenever you get podcasts: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast 🎧

Have a great rest of the week ❤️


🚨 New Episode 🚨A Real pleasure to be joined this week by my friend and colleague Adair Murray who's had a fascinating & ...
10/04/2024

🚨 New Episode 🚨
A Real pleasure to be joined this week by my friend and colleague Adair Murray who's had a fascinating & varied career to date 🎤✍️

Adair spoke to us about everything from:

■ Moving to London at the age of 16 to pursue a career in music.
■ Nearly becoming a member of S-Club 7.
■ Script Editing and working across two different industries.
■ Learning to love your art for what it is.
■ His various work at Hollywooks & River City.
■ His return to making music again and much much more.

Adair's latest single 'No Shame' is out now also!

Loved this conversation and you can listen here:https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast?fbclid=IwAR37bcLFu7YGyzs7uvWQIaPGDdxfuEuQF6yD0gCbbZhaFo5rv4awKP_Ock4_aem_AUeGMcG1By5pxt1Qmzka4NbDmOFIxPu9JORGo7WK0rK4LbIAKKpjbniF_P-VfST6IuKcap-WuDOjzIrBlIbF_TJ9

Hope everyone has a great week and happy listening 🔆

🚨   New Episode 🚨Thrilled to be joined this week by talented Poet & Theatre Maker  ✍️Henry is currently on tour with his...
04/04/2024

🚨 New Episode 🚨

Thrilled to be joined this week by talented Poet & Theatre Maker ✍️

Henry is currently on tour with his critically acclaimed show 'The Land of Lost Content’ and a lot of his work aims to champion rural voices and small-town stories.

We chatted about everything from:
■ Dealing with imposter syndrome.
■ The importance of rural voices.
■ His approach to writing and spoken word.
■ The realities of touring.
■ Accepting negative reviews/feedback.
■ His advice for his younger self and much more.

Streaming now wherever you get podcasts, including on Apple & Spotify 🎧

Have a great rest of the week 🤩

Thrilled to be joined this week by brothers  & .75 who are two of the co-founders of the popular Some Guys With A Camera...
20/03/2024

Thrilled to be joined this week by brothers & .75 who are two of the co-founders of the popular Some Guys With A Camera 🎬

We chatted about everything from:

■ Their earliest creative influences.
■ Liverpool.
■ Building a creative community.
■ How they made their comedy-drama series ‘Birchall’s Pints’, now streaming on Amazon Prime.
■ The realities of being a creative.
■ Mental health and much more.

Really enjoyed speaking to John and Matt and be sure to check it out wherever you get podcasts including on Apple, Spotify or by hitting the link in our bio 🎧

Have a great rest of the week 💥

🚨 EPISODE 128 🚨A real treat of an episode this week as I had the privilege of chatting with Puppeteer and Actor Dave Cha...
28/02/2024

🚨 EPISODE 128 🚨

A real treat of an episode this week as I had the privilege of chatting with Puppeteer and Actor Dave Chapman, whose credits include everything from ‘Stars Wars’, ‘The Muppets: Treasure Island’, ‘Prometheus’ and a whole range of CBBC shows.

Dave spoke about everything from:

■ His earliest influences and his first steps into becoming a Puppeteer.

■ His iconic character ‘Ottis the Aardvark' on CBBC and his other work across children's TV.

■ His various work on Star Wars, including as one of the two performers for BB8 in The Force Awakens and as the voice for B2-Emo in Andor.

■ His advice for aspiring Puppeteers and writing your own material.

■ Protecting your mental health and physical health in an all-consuming industry.

■ The advice Harrison Ford gave to Oscar Issac.

■ Being part of ‘Dick and Dom in Da Bungalow’ and much much more.

Absolutely loved this conversation, and it's packed with insights from Dave as well as some wonderful stories from his increibly accomplished career. Really hope you enjoy it! 😎🔥

Listen Here :https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast?fbclid=PAAaZNoKIlIIxGR_n8yRx5WFcOu2qj1JKi8UCN524ua2thtLb-P-UFiDjtwk8

Have a great week can if you enjoy give it a share 💥

🚨 Episode 127 🚨Part 2 of our conversation with rising stars  and  from  is out now 🎬This week, we dived a bit deeper int...
14/02/2024

🚨 Episode 127 🚨

Part 2 of our conversation with rising stars and from is out now 🎬

This week, we dived a bit deeper into some of the more technical aspects of being a director speaking about everything from:

■ Some of the specific skills that have helped them as directors.

■ Their approach to writing.

■ Some of the entry points for directors.

■ What the industry can improve on, particularly with new talent.

■ The day to day of it all.

■ Mental Wellbeing & much more.

It's been a treat having Marcus and Oz on across both these parts, and you can listen wherever you get podcasts, including on Spottily & Apple 🎧

https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast?fbclid=IwAR2XPgz2Bouj6-2DAEMNTXdSiC_GzwStYLvTWCW3ldbG7oiVzcKU3sppw3E

Happy Valentines Day and a great week all ❤️

🚨 Episode 126 🚨We are thrilled to be joined this week by rising stars  &  from the brillant  🎬They had so many interesti...
09/02/2024

🚨 Episode 126 🚨

We are thrilled to be joined this week by rising stars & from the brillant 🎬

They had so many interesting things to say about the world of directing that this one will be going out in 2 parts, with the 2nd part coming next week 🌟

In part 1 of this chat, we talked about everything from:
■ Their first steps into directing.
■ The role of a director.
■ Starting the Directors Take podcast.
■ Transferable skills & much more.

Listen wherever you get podcasts inclduing on Spotify & Apple. Link here:https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast

Hope you enjoy this weeks episode! 🎧


🚨 WE ARE BACK 🚨And to kick off 2024, we are joined by award winning composer & sound designer Nicola T. Chang  🔊Working ...
31/01/2024

🚨 WE ARE BACK 🚨

And to kick off 2024, we are joined by award winning composer & sound designer Nicola T. Chang 🔊

Working across stage, screen, and dance in a number of roles, Nicola has had an interesting and varied career path so far 🎼

We chatted about everything from:
■ How growing up in Hong Kong has influenced Nicola as a creative.
■ Sound design.
■ Juggling different skills.
■ The importance of positive representation across the industry.
■ Fantastically Great Women the Musical
■ Freelancing & more!

As always, you can listen on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get podcasts.
Listen Here: here:https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast?fbclid=PAAaYc1OmZor5gy4KDRPwZK04Lj05hFjYcAKoPEPbquceQrtIpKrUt0UAykw8

It's great to be back, and we hope everyone has a wonderful rest of the week!



🎄 It's Christmas & New Year Special Time 🎄For this year's festivitieswe are joined once again by the brilliant Matt Hick...
20/12/2023

🎄 It's Christmas & New Year Special Time 🎄

For this year's festivities
we are joined once again by the brilliant Matt Hickman of Brownbear and the hilarious Kate Hammer🎁

We chatted about everything from
■ Matt's incredible new album 'Demons'
■ Kate getting a visa.
■ Christmas Traditions.
■ Struggling to switch off as a creative.
■ Cultural highlights.
■ Up's & Down's.
■ Another incredible Brownbear origin story covering how Kate and Matt meet and much more.

Thank you to all our listeners for your support once again this year. We’re incredibly grateful, and we hope you have a wonderful Christmas and a very Happy New Year when it comes 🎉

Listen wherever you get podcasts, links here:https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast

#2023

🚨 EPISODE 123 🚨This week, we are joined by journalist & disability campaigner  🎙We had a very inspiring chat about every...
06/12/2023

🚨 EPISODE 123 🚨

This week, we are joined by journalist & disability campaigner 🎙

We had a very inspiring chat about everything from:

■ His career as a journalist.
■ His new BBC Radio documentary 'Disability with Attitude'.
■ The barriers that are still facing disabled people in the creative industries.
■ Overcoming setbacks and much more.

Really enjoyed this conversation and hope you do as well!

As always, you can listen wherever you get podcasts, including on Apple & Spotify or by hitting the link on the bio 🎧

🚨 NEW EPISODE 🚨This week, we are joined by West End stars  &  🎆They spoke to us about everything from:■ Playing Christia...
29/11/2023

🚨 NEW EPISODE 🚨
This week, we are joined by West End stars & 🎆

They spoke to us about everything from:

■ Playing Christian and Satine in Moulin Rouge The Musical - London🎇
■ Dealing with setbacks.
■ Their first steps into performing.
■ Making time for other passions.
■ Their day-to-day schedules as performers.
■ What the creative sector could learn from elite sport & much more.

Listen Here:https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast

Really enjoyed recoding this one! Happy listening, and have a great week! 🌟



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🚨 New Episode 🚨In Episode 121, we are joined by , who is the Artistic Director of  🎭Niki has been producing theatre for ...
22/11/2023

🚨 New Episode 🚨

In Episode 121, we are joined by , who is the Artistic Director of 🎭

Niki has been producing theatre for over 30 years, with a strong reputation for contemporary, artistic children’s theatre and is a truly inspiring individual l.

We had a brilliant chat about everything from:

■ All things Stuff and Nonsense Theatre.
■ From creating children-led theatre.
■ Learning to let yourself off the hook.
■ Buying her local theatre.
■ The incredible life lessons she's learned from working with children.
■ Her day-to-day role as an Artistic Director and much more 🌟

We have been blessed recently to be joined by guests with such a wealth of experiences in the creative industries and you can listen wherever you get podcasts! 🎧

Link Here :https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast

Have a brillant week, everyone, and be sure to share if you're enjoying the podcast 🥳

15/11/2023
🚨 Episode 120 🚨This week, we are joined by Craig Andrew Mooney  ✍️🎭🎬We chatted about everything from:■ Craig's recently ...
15/11/2023

🚨 Episode 120 🚨

This week, we are joined by Craig Andrew Mooney ✍️🎭🎬

We chatted about everything from:

■ Craig's recently published novel ‘The Rebel of Time'.
■ How he juggles multiple creative roles.
■ Taking a pragmatic approach to your career.
■ Craig's involvement with and ‘The Difference Between Us.’
■ Mental wellbeing & much more.

Was great having Craig on the podcast, and I'm sure people are going to enjoy 📣

Listen wherever you get podcasts inclduing on Apple & Spotify:
https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast?fbclid=PAAaYva-op4gMa8HQV3sxX4j6L7TE5Jx-cmlMFphJa5TyTGlWjxYuqbWjYnz8

Have a good week, everyone!

🚨 Episode 119 🚨This week, we are joined by the wonderful J Spooner who is a core artist and the Chief Executive of Unlim...
05/11/2023

🚨 Episode 119 🚨

This week, we are joined by the wonderful J Spooner who is a core artist and the Chief Executive of Unlimited Theatre 🎭🔥

We had an incredible chat about everything from:

■ 27 years of starting and running a successful theatre company.

■ Creating a lasting legacy for the next generation of theatre makers.

■ Getting shot at in the jungles of Papua New Guinea.

■ Directing the CBeebies Christmas show for BBC One.

■ Leaving the creative industries.

■ Combining art with other sectors, and much more 🙌

This was such a rich conversation, and it was a joy chatting with J!

It's the first time we've had someone on the podcast that will soon be leaving the creative industries, so it gave things a slightly different perspective in the best possible way.

Perfect episode to mark our 3rd anniversary of the podcast 🥳

Listen Here: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast

This didn’t post on Wednesday for some reason so doing it now. Have a lovely Sunday all ❤️


🎊 THREE YEARS OF PODCASTING 🎊Three years ago today we  launched 'Just Get A Real Job', and what a journey it's been so f...
02/11/2023

🎊 THREE YEARS OF PODCASTING 🎊

Three years ago today we launched 'Just Get A Real Job', and what a journey it's been so far!!!

Set this up to be a creative toolkit for people who want to understand or are interested in the weird and wonderful creative careers that are possible.

Never expected this to become what's its become and for people to actually listen and engage. I am so grateful to all our listeners and to everyone who makes this what it is!

Say this so often, but it's been a truly life changing experience, getting to meet and chat with so many inspiring people every week.

Couldn't do this without our editor-in-chief Elliot Mitchell, who puts so much hard graft into this and gets it sounding great.

Big shoutout also to Aimee, who does our art and to Amanda, who does our live show photos 🙏

Very proud of what we have accomplished together over the last 119 episodes, and I can't wait to see where this takes us next!

A massive thank you to everyone who has supported this podcast in any way and a very happy 3rd birthday to 'Just Get A Real Job'
🥳🥳🥳

🚨 Episode 118 🚨Part 2 of our live The HB Film Festival  podcast with Sonja Blietschau Photography  , Sarah Grant Creativ...
27/10/2023

🚨 Episode 118 🚨

Part 2 of our live The HB Film Festival podcast with Sonja Blietschau Photography , Sarah Grant Creative &
is out now 🎧🔥

This didn't post on Wednesday for some reason!

In this part of the conversations, we covered everything from:

■ Non-Linear Career Paths.
■ How to be a freelancer.
■ The financial pressures that can come with bring a creative.
■ Diversifying your craft and more!

Listen Here 🎧: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast?fbclid=PAAaYyz19LvG3skh30MLYShRbXsPQc9ANfmaf0avniSYP_PcpyXf5mWKTD56s

Have a great week everyone 🌟

🚨 Episode 117 🚨In the first part of our live The HB Film Festival episode, we are joined by Sarah Grant Creative , Sonja...
19/10/2023

🚨 Episode 117 🚨

In the first part of our live The HB Film Festival
episode, we are joined by Sarah Grant Creative , Sonja Blietschau Photography and Ashley Catherine Dick 🌟

We discussed everything from:
■ Their creative influences.
■ How where they are from has shaped their work.
■ Identity.
■ Non-Linear Careers.
■ The education system & much more.

It's always a pleasure getting to do this in front of a live audience, and it was such an insightful conversation. Thanks again to everyone that joined us on the day!

Part 2 of this will be out next week!

Listen Here: https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast?fbclid=PAAaauVdc9bs0SUBAB5KLsRf5yfjeVYN3YetsnGe16qA0f7a7v7PDXhhLvWsU

Have a great week everyone and happy listening 🌞

10/10/2023
🚨 Episode 115 🚨This week, we are joined once again by the brilliant  & .j.j.m_  🎬We reflected on what’s been a boss two ...
03/10/2023

🚨 Episode 115 🚨

This week, we are joined once again by the brilliant & .j.j.m_ 🎬

We reflected on what’s been a boss two years for them:

With Shaun landing the role of 'Bolton' in the new Boiling Point series (BBC) and Jack being asked to direct the behind-the-scenes documentary for it.

We also chatted about Jack’s new short film 'Are You Okay', discussed mental health and setbacks, their experiences working together in the creative industries, and much more.

It's a really inspiring conversation, and it's great to have these two back on!

Listen wherever you get podcasts, including on:

APPLE: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/jus…

SPOTIFY:https://spotify.link/ubyUtbISADb

Have a great week, everyone, and be sure to check out Boiling Point 📣🤗

We are delighted to announce that for our live show at , we will be joined by:  ,   &  📣📣📣So grab a coffee and be sure t...
27/09/2023

We are delighted to announce that for our live show at , we will be joined by:

, &
📣📣📣

So grab a coffee and be sure to come join us at half 10 on the 8th of October for a great Sunday morning creative chat 🌟🙌

Tickets available in our bio!

🚨 Episode 114 🚨This week, we are joined by  playwright  ✍️We spoke about everything from :■ Rachel's current play 'These...
26/09/2023

🚨 Episode 114 🚨

This week, we are joined by playwright ✍️

We spoke about everything from :

■ Rachel's current play 'These Demons currently on' at Theatre 503 in London until October 14th!
■ Her experiences in developing new musicals.
■ Manging the balance between working and creative endeavours.
■ Rachel's successful musical "Game Theory"
■ Early influences and much more.

Link in our bio, or you can listen wherever you get podcasts, including on Apple & Spotify 🎧

Have a brillant week, everyone, and be sure to share the podcast if you're enjoying 🤩👌



🚨 Episode 113 🚨This week on the podcast, we are joined once again by the incredible  🎥 We discussed everything from:■ He...
19/09/2023

🚨 Episode 113 🚨

This week on the podcast, we are joined once again by the incredible 🎥

We discussed everything from:
■ Her incredible new documentaries ‘Working Differently’ & ‘Not Your Average Family’.
■ What Hannah's learned about her craft in the last few years.
■ Manging mental wellbeing.
■ What the creative industries can improve on.
■ Hannah's advice for others and much more.

This episode is available on all podcasting platforms, including Spotify & Apple 🎧

We hope you enjoy this weeks brillant episode! Let us know what you think 🌟

13/09/2023
🚨 Episode 112 🚨This week, we are joined by talented Theatre maker  🎭 🙌Laila chatted to us about everything from:■ Workin...
12/09/2023

🚨 Episode 112 🚨

This week, we are joined by talented Theatre maker 🎭 🙌

Laila chatted to us about everything from:

■ Working in Theatre.
■ Her creative earliest influences.
■ The importance of diversifying your practice.
■ Directing for
■ Her theatre company
■ Upcoming plays and much more!

The play Laila's is currently directing 'Ship Rats' is on now at A Play, Pie a Pint. 📣🌟

Links in bio or listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get podcasts from 🎧

Have a great week, everyone 🙌

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