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Conversations with Publisher RA "Kris" Millegan

Kris talks to TrineDay's authors, whose books challenge official history and tend to rock the boat of America’s corporate “culture.” Learn what you're not "supposed" to know.

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 172Onward! Kris, Paul, Liz, Kent and Adam Wish Bruce WellShow-link is in the comments.Pub...
22/01/2025

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 172
Onward! Kris, Paul, Liz, Kent and Adam Wish Bruce Well

Show-link is in the comments.

Publisher Kris Millegan and authors Paul Fitzgerald, Elizabeth Gould, S. K. Bain and A. W. Finnegan wish Bruce de Torres well as he becomes Communications Director for the American Small Business League. Bruce became TrineDay’s Marketing Director in 2020 when Kris launched TrineDay’s podcast, THE JOURNEY: Conversations with Publisher Kris Millegan.

Bruce’s book, GOD, SCHOOL, 9/11 AND JFK: The Lies That Are Killing Us and The Truth That Sets Us Free, came out in 2021 (Read the amazing reviews at BrucedeTorres.com!), the same year Kris launched TrineDay’s Live monthly Zoom Roundtables, inspired by Paul and Liz’s book, THE VALEDICTION, their two-part memoir about the mainstream media’s refusal to broadcast the truths that Paul and Liz found in Afghanistan about the Soviet Union’s presence there in the 1980s, and about what Paul and Liz call “the narrative creation process.”

The Roundtables explore JFK’s vision of peace, and economic justice as the foundation for a genuine world peace, highlighting the principles of Henry George, 19th Century American political economist. Future Roundtables can be found at Valediction.net, under Events. Past Roundtables can be seen on YouTube, on the channel called “Valediction Vision.”

S. K. Bain is the author of four TrineDay books: THE MOST DANGEROUS BOOK IN THE WORLD: 9/11 as Mass Ritual; THE END…IS ONLY THE BEGINNING: 2022 and the Coming of God; BLACK JACK: The Dawning of the New Great Age of Satan; and MOST DANGEROUS: A True Story. His humor lets the reader comprehend the malice evident in the events he relates.

A. W. Finnegan is the author of THE SLEEPER AGENT: The Rise of Lyme Disease, Chronic Illness and the Great Imitator Antigens of Biological Warfare, “very different than what most people think of when they hear ‘biological warfare.’ An attack to tire and exhaust; to take down your enemy over one hundred years, not six months or so with a deadly disease, because those burn out quickly and actually don’t do as much damage. … if you take out the immune system, there’s a secondary effect on the brain, causing what I call the dark triad: chronic disease, neurological and neuropsychiatric disorders, and cancers. All three of those are absolutely exploding in western countries today.”

Inspired by Paul and Liz’s stories of synchronicities, dreams, and other mystical experiences, Bruce describes seeing JFK in his mind’s eye while standing near the eternal flame at Arlington Cemetery, then having an echo or bookend experience while standing on the Grassy Knoll in Dealey Plaza seven years later.

“TrineDay will always be family. I will stay in touch. And, as Kris says, there is a right way to walk here on earth, a right way for us to treat our brothers and sisters.”

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 172Onward! Kris, Paul, Liz, Kent and Adam Wish Bruce WellPublisher Kris Millegan and auth...
22/01/2025

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 172
Onward! Kris, Paul, Liz, Kent and Adam Wish Bruce Well

Publisher Kris Millegan and authors Paul Fitzgerald, Elizabeth Gould, S. K. Bain and A. W. Finnegan wish Bruce de Torres well as he becomes Communications Director for the American Small Business League. Bruce became TrineDay’s Marketing Director in 2020 when Kris launched TrineDay’s podcast, THE JOURNEY: Conversations with Publisher Kris Millegan.

Bruce’s book, GOD, SCHOOL, 9/11 AND JFK: The Lies That Are Killing Us and The Truth That Sets Us Free, came out in 2021 (Read the amazing reviews at BrucedeTorres.com!), the same year Kris launched TrineDay’s Live monthly Zoom Roundtables, inspired by Paul and Liz’s book, THE VALEDICTION, their two-part memoir about the mainstream media’s refusal to broadcast the truths that Paul and Liz found in Afghanistan about the Soviet Union’s presence there in the 1980s, and about what Paul and Liz call “the narrative creation process.”

The Roundtables explore JFK’s vision of peace, and economic justice as the foundation for a genuine world peace, highlighting the principles of Henry George, 19th Century American political economist. Future Roundtables can be found at Valediction.net, under Events. Past Roundtables can be seen on YouTube, on the channel called “Valediction Vision.”

S. K. Bain is the author of four TrineDay books: THE MOST DANGEROUS BOOK IN THE WORLD: 9/11 as Mass Ritual; THE END…IS ONLY THE BEGINNING: 2022 and the Coming of God; BLACK JACK: The Dawning of the New Great Age of Satan; and MOST DANGEROUS: A True Story. His humor lets the reader comprehend the malice evident in the events he relates.

A. W. Finnegan is the author of THE SLEEPER AGENT: The Rise of Lyme Disease, Chronic Illness and the Great Imitator Antigens of Biological Warfare, “very different than what most people think of when they hear ‘biological warfare.’ An attack to tire and exhaust; to take down your enemy over one hundred years, not six months or so with a deadly disease, because those burn out quickly and actually don’t do as much damage. … if you take out the immune system, there’s a secondary effect on the brain, causing what I call the dark triad: chronic disease, neurological and neuropsychiatric disorders, and cancers. All three of those are absolutely exploding in western countries today.”

Inspired by Paul and Liz’s stories of synchronicities, dreams, and other mystical experiences, Bruce describes seeing JFK in his mind’s eye while standing near the eternal flame at Arlington Cemetery, then having an echo or bookend experience while standing on the Grassy Knoll in Dealey Plaza seven years later.

“TrineDay will always be family. I will stay in touch. And, as Kris says, there is a right way to walk here on earth, a right way for us to treat our brothers and sisters.”


https://trinedaythejourneypodcast.buzzsprout.com/1284782/episodes/16482446-172-onward-kris-paul-liz-kent-and-adam-wish-bruce-well

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 172Onward! Kris, Paul, Liz, Kent and Adam Wish Bruce WellPublisher Kris Millegan and authors Paul Fitzgerald, Elizabeth Gould, S. K. Bain and A. W. Finnegan wish Bruce de Torres well as he becomes Communications Dire...

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 171Neil Pine: Antibiotics, Bird Flu, and Global WarmingShow-link is in the comments.Publi...
18/01/2025

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 171
Neil Pine: Antibiotics, Bird Flu, and Global Warming
Show-link is in the comments.

Publisher Kris Millegan speaks with Neil Pine, author of THE CONSCIOUS PLANET: A Vision of Sustainability, Peace and Prosperity, available at TrineDay.com and the usual sellers. Learn more about Neil and his work at TheConsciousPlanet.org.

Topics and paraphrasing:

80% of antibiotics are fed to livestock. They compromise the immune systems of people who eat meat and dairy products. Ways to strengthen our immune systems are discussed, many of which are in Neil’s book. For instance, the benefits of wheatgrass and wheatgrass juice. It oxygenates our blood, which helps prevent cancer, which can’t live in an oxygenated environment.

Bird flu, Neil says, has now been found in 66 different animal species, causing the preventative destruction of millions of chickens and eggs. “Veganism is the most powerful strategy to adopt for health, for psychological wellbeing, and for the environment.”

Global Warming, the California Fires, and Animal Agriculture

Hempcrete should be used more often. It is heat-and-fire resistant.

The U.N. says that 51% of global warming gases are linked to the raising of livestock. Daily, 200,000 acres of the rain forest are burned away, creating massive amounts of C02 and turning the land into a desert.

We grow 10X the crops for livestock consumption than for human consumption. 80% of dairy cows, in factory farms, never eat a blade of grass. Cattle can eat up to 60 pounds of grain a day. Growing and transporting that grain, transporting cattle to slaughterhouses, then to packaging plants, then to distribution centers for delivery to retail stores creates enormous amounts of C02.

Fishing trawlers are another major cause of C02, not only emissions from the diesel fuel they consume but dragging their nets on the ocean floor dredges up or releases massive amounts of C02.

Methane is a bigger contributor than C02. And there are dead zones in the ocean due to fertilizer run-off where there is no marine life because those areas have been deoxygenated.

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 171Neil Pine: Antibiotics, Bird Flu, and Global WarmingPublisher Kris Millegan speaks wit...
18/01/2025

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 171
Neil Pine: Antibiotics, Bird Flu, and Global Warming

Publisher Kris Millegan speaks with Neil Pine, author of THE CONSCIOUS PLANET: A Vision of Sustainability, Peace and Prosperity, available at TrineDay.com and the usual sellers. Learn more about Neil and his work at TheConsciousPlanet.org.

Topics and paraphrasing:

80% of antibiotics are fed to livestock. They compromise the immune systems of people who eat meat and dairy products. Ways to strengthen our immune systems are discussed, many of which are in Neil’s book. For instance, the benefits of wheatgrass and wheatgrass juice. It oxygenates our blood, which helps prevent cancer, which can’t live in an oxygenated environment.

Bird flu, Neil says, has now been found in 66 different animal species, causing the preventative destruction of millions of chickens and eggs. “Veganism is the most powerful strategy to adopt for health, for psychological wellbeing, and for the environment.”

Global Warming, the California Fires, and Animal Agriculture

Hempcrete should be used more often. It is heat-and-fire resistant.

The U.N. says that 51% of global warming gases are linked to the raising of livestock. Daily, 200,000 acres of the rain forest are burned away, creating massive amounts of C02 and turning the land into a desert.

We grow 10X the crops for livestock consumption than for human consumption. 80% of dairy cows, in factory farms, never eat a blade of grass. Cattle can eat up to 60 pounds of grain a day. Growing and transporting that grain, transporting cattle to slaughterhouses, then to packaging plants, then to distribution centers for delivery to retail stores creates enormous amounts of C02.

Fishing trawlers are another major cause of C02, not only emissions from the diesel fuel they consume but dragging their nets on the ocean floor dredges up or releases massive amounts of C02.

Methane is a bigger contributor than C02. And there are dead zones in the ocean due to fertilizer run-off where there is no marine life because those areas have been deoxygenated.


https://trinedaythejourneypodcast.buzzsprout.com/1284782/episodes/16458273-171-neil-pine-antibiotics-bird-flu-and-global-warming

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 171Neil Pine: Antibiotics, Bird Flu, and Global WarmingPublisher Kris Millegan speaks with Neil Pine, author of THE CONSCIOUS PLANET: A Vision of Sustainability, Peace and Prosperity, available at TrineDay.com and th...

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 170John Klyczek: Riding the Back of the Technology TigerPublisher Kris Millegan speaks wi...
17/01/2025

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 170
John Klyczek: Riding the Back of the Technology Tiger

Publisher Kris Millegan speaks with John Klyczek, author of SCHOOL WORLD ORDER: The Technocratic Globalization of Corporatized Education, available at TrineDay.com and the usual sellers. John’s scholarship focuses on the history of global eugenics and Aldous Huxley’s dystopic novel, Brave New World. Learn more about his work at schoolworldorder.info.

Summary and paraphrasing:

Horribly, in school, technology is constantly data mining our children’s work for the purposes of social engineering and psychological profiling.

John Taylor Gatto was the author of DUMBING US DOWN: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling, and THE UNDERGROUND HISTORY OF AMERICAN EDUCATION: A Schoolteacher’s Intimate Investigation into the Problem of Modern Schooling. He showed how school hamstrings the natural curiosity of children, the bad effects of the corporatization of education, and how generations have been dumbed down intentionally.

Reading moved from phonics, where letters signify sounds, to a look-and-say/pictographic basis, while emphasis on grammar was abandoned, causing a decline in literacy. “It’s criminal that we’re not teaching logic, rhetoric, etc.”

Barbara Marx Hubbard (“American futurist, author, and public speaker” -Wikipedia) is discussed, particularly her ideas of conscious evolution, which support the drive toward transhumanism, the merger of man with machines/digital components.

Foreseeable is something of a digital/cybernetic slavery, a la Orwell’s 1984, where mere compliance isn’t the goal. They want us to love our condition; to make us believe we are evolving and improving and doing our part for the greater good.

And yet, Kris is quite hopeful. Technology is not all bad. The internet and the personal computer let us communicate and create in ways inconceivable not long ago, and people are mostly good.

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 170John Klyczek: Riding the Back of the Technology TigerPublisher Kris Millegan speaks wi...
17/01/2025

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 170
John Klyczek: Riding the Back of the Technology Tiger

Publisher Kris Millegan speaks with John Klyczek, author of SCHOOL WORLD ORDER: The Technocratic Globalization of Corporatized Education, available at TrineDay.com and the usual sellers. John’s scholarship focuses on the history of global eugenics and Aldous Huxley’s dystopic novel, Brave New World. Learn more about his work at schoolworldorder.info.

Summary and paraphrasing:

Horribly, in school, technology is constantly data mining our children’s work for the purposes of social engineering and psychological profiling.

John Taylor Gatto was the author of DUMBING US DOWN: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling, and THE UNDERGROUND HISTORY OF AMERICAN EDUCATION: A Schoolteacher’s Intimate Investigation into the Problem of Modern Schooling. He showed how school hamstrings the natural curiosity of children, the bad effects of the corporatization of education, and how generations have been dumbed down intentionally.

Reading moved from phonics, where letters signify sounds, to a look-and-say/pictographic basis, while emphasis on grammar was abandoned, causing a decline in literacy. “It’s criminal that we’re not teaching logic, rhetoric, etc.”

Barbara Marx Hubbard (“American futurist, author, and public speaker” -Wikipedia) is discussed, particularly her ideas of conscious evolution, which support the drive toward transhumanism, the merger of man with machines/digital components.

Foreseeable is something of a digital/cybernetic slavery, a la Orwell’s 1984, where mere compliance isn’t the goal. They want us to love our condition; to make us believe we are evolving and improving and doing our part for the greater good.

And yet, Kris is quite hopeful. Technology is not all bad. The internet and the personal computer let us communicate and create in ways inconceivable not long ago, and people are mostly good.


https://trinedaythejourneypodcast.buzzsprout.com/1284782/episodes/16451615-170-john-klyczek-riding-the-back-of-the-technology-tiger

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 170John Klyczek: Riding the Back of the Technology TigerPublisher Kris Millegan speaks with John Klyczek, author of SCHOOL WORLD ORDER: The Technocratic Globalization of Corporatized Education, available at TrineDay....

31/12/2024

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TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 169
Ari Ben-Menashe
Intelligence Agencies Create Narratives (Will There Be Peace in the Middle East?)
Show-link is in the comments.

Publisher Kris Millegan recently spoke with Ari Ben-Menashe, author of PROFITS OF WAR: Inside the Secret U.S.-Israeli Arms Network. Ari spent more than a decade in the innermost circles of Israeli intelligence. He not only was privy to the secret negotiations with the Iranians to delay the release of the American hostages until after the election of Ronald Reagan. He is the man who paid the Iranians for the hostages.

Summary and paraphrasing:

Kris wanted to talk about intelligence work and geopolitics. His father had been in intelligence (the CIA) and he told Kris some things. Kris had to read a lot of books about intelligence to understand what he had been told.

Kris: We’re doing a book right now called TWO WORLD WARS AND HI**ER: Who was Responsible? Its main idea is that Britain was very concerned about Germany and Russia getting together, because then they could control the heartland [of central Asia] and then they could quote-unquote control the world. So, in the late 1800s, Britain started laying a path toward World War I. Then once in the war, they prolonged it. Americans and British and other people shipped foodstuffs to keep the German army going so the war could continue to last.

After the war, they got Germany into such a state that they signed a piece of paper saying that they were responsible for the war. And when you really look at it, [you find that is not true]. Then we manipulated the economy and sent in agents to raise up Hi**er so that they could have a second war. Is that true, Ari, to your understanding?

Ari: Yeah. The British probably did that. Yes. After the first World War, they helped a lady named Rosa Luxemburg take over Germany, and she singlehandedly destroyed the economy. When an extreme lefty takes over, the next thing is that a real rightwing fascist N**i will take over because that’s what the people will want. From one extreme to the other.

Kris: Right.

Ari: And she was Jewish. So, when Hi**er’s regime takes over, they all hated Jews. And the communist revolution in Russia was also Jewish people. [Helped with money from non-Jews.] So, the troubles of the world could be blamed on the Jews. That’s how World War 2 started. And Hi**er was going to go after the Russians. But he was willing to deal with them, and tried to do regime change, and shared Poland with them. And that really scared the Brits. Yes, the Brits instigated the two world wars.

Kris: When I look at intelligence deeply, really what I see is the creation of narratives.

Ari: Absolutely right.

Kris: The creation of the mega-narratives to influence history, you might say. For instance, my father told me, “The Vietnam War is about drugs. There are these secret societies behind it. And communism is all a sham. These same secret societies are behind it all. It’s all a big game.” I thought he was nuts. But he wasn’t. He’d been branch chief, head of the East Asia Analysis Office for the CIA, among other things.

O***M, EMPIRE AND THE GLOBAL POLITICAL ECONOMY by Dr. Carl Trocki basically says, whoever controls the o***m trade in a country, since the 1800s, controls that country’s economy. With that huge pile of money, they corrupt things, so we don’t really live in a “real” world. We live in a manufactured world [of the narratives they give us].

For instance, people tell me that Richard Nixon [accelerated up the ladder of success] by blackmailing the Dulles brothers after World War 2. He found that they were bringing many, maybe thousands, of N**is here against President Truman’s direct written orders. Nixon goes from being a representative in ’46, to the Senate in ‘50, to vice president in 1952. They used Nixon then in this big drama they create for the American people. It’s quite a mess, really.

Ari: Intelligence agencies create narratives for their political masters. For instance, they created a narrative that Assad in Syria was a monster, murdering his own people, in order to get rid of him. Now the people that took over Syria are considered peaceniks. Wonderful people. But remember who they are. They are al Qaeda people. We didn’t like al Qaeda. Now we love them. You asked about narratives in intelligence. There we go. There we are.

Kris: We get led this way. We get led that way. Where in the heck is a person to stand?

Kris reviews the stolen election narrative promoted by Trump and the money spent by Elon Musk to help Trump win in 2024, which may have led to some shenanigans that affected the voting. He reminds us that generations have been subjected to propaganda, then asks Ari what he thinks the future holds for the United States and for the Middle East.

Ari: I believe there will be peace in the Middle East once the deal between the United States and Iran is done and the Iranians become friends with the Arabs and the Israelis, they have to stop fighting. They have to stop feeling threatened.

Kris: Who’s going to do that?

Ari: Trump.

Kris: Well, it would make him a popular figure, wouldn’t it?

Ari: Five years ago, Trump was playing hardball with the Iranians. But he said he would go to Teheran [to make peace] if he were re-elected in 2020. That didn’t happen. But he’s been re-elected now. And I believe, between him and the Saudis, they’re going to make a deal with the Iranians. And Trump’s going to go and address the Iranian parliament.

Kris: Well, I hope something like that happens. I think that would be good.

Ari: And instead of giving Obama the Nobel Peace Prize, give it to crazy Trump.

Kris: We will see what happens.

Then Kris and Ari discuss the war in Ukraine and how the intelligence services created a narrative that the elected president was bad, to justify his ouster in a coup. They agree that Biden wasn’t very wise about Ukraine. And giving Israel a blank check was not a good idea.

Ari: Palestinians are also human beings.

Kris: Amen.

Ari: Biden is the person that got the most money from the Israeli lobby [over the past 40 years].

Kris: He didn’t stand up to Israel at all.

Ari: It isn’t about that. It’s about doing a global peace deal. Going back to Ukraine. Putin isn’t innocent, either. The advice he got in 2014 [to counter what was happening in Ukraine]. Instead, he should have killed the Ukrainians with love. Give them free gas. Let them travel to Europe visa-free. And other things. Instead, he got mad. He was insulted because Hillary Clinton, at some point, called him Hi**er. He should have risen above himself and killed the Ukrainians with love and things would have worked out. But he didn’t do that.

ARTICLE ON TRINEDAILY.COMTrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 169Ari Ben-MenasheIntelligence Agencies Create Narratives (Will ...
30/12/2024

ARTICLE ON TRINEDAILY.COM
TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 169
Ari Ben-Menashe
Intelligence Agencies Create Narratives (Will There Be Peace in the Middle East?)

Show-link is in the comments.

Publisher Kris Millegan recently spoke with Ari Ben-Menashe, author of PROFITS OF WAR: Inside the Secret U.S.-Israeli Arms Network. Ari spent more than a decade in the innermost circles of Israeli intelligence. He not only was privy to the secret negotiations with the Iranians to delay the release of the American hostages until after the election of Ronald Reagan. He is the man who paid the Iranians for the hostages.

Summary and paraphrasing:

Kris wanted to talk about intelligence work and geopolitics. His father had been in intelligence (the CIA) and he told Kris some things. Kris had to read a lot of books about intelligence to understand what he had been told.

Kris: We’re doing a book right now called TWO WORLD WARS AND HI**ER: Who was Responsible? Its main idea is that Britain was very concerned about Germany and Russia getting together, because then they could control the heartland [of central Asia] and then they could quote-unquote control the world. So, in the late 1800s, Britain started laying a path toward World War I. Then once in the war, they prolonged it. Americans and British and other people shipped foodstuffs to keep the German army going so the war could continue to last.

After the war, they got Germany into such a state that they signed a piece of paper saying that they were responsible for the war. And when you really look at it, [you find that is not true]. Then we manipulated the economy and sent in agents to raise up Hi**er so that they could have a second war. Is that true, Ari, to your understanding?

Ari: Yeah. The British probably did that. Yes. After the first World War, they helped a lady named Rosa Luxemburg take over Germany, and she singlehandedly destroyed the economy. When an extreme lefty takes over, the next thing is that a real rightwing fascist N**i will take over because that’s what the people will want. From one extreme to the other.

Kris: Right.

Ari: And she was Jewish. So, when Hi**er’s regime takes over, they all hated Jews. And the communist revolution in Russia was also Jewish people. [Helped with money from non-Jews.] So, the troubles of the world could be blamed on the Jews. That’s how World War 2 started. And Hi**er was going to go after the Russians. But he was willing to deal with them, and tried to do regime change, and shared Poland with them. And that really scared the Brits. Yes, the Brits instigated the two world wars.

Kris: When I look at intelligence deeply, really what I see is the creation of narratives.

Ari: Absolutely right.

Kris: The creation of the mega-narratives to influence history, you might say. For instance, my father told me, “The Vietnam War is about drugs. There are these secret societies behind it. And communism is all a sham. These same secret societies are behind it all. It’s all a big game.” I thought he was nuts. But he wasn’t. He’d been branch chief, head of the East Asia Analysis Office for the CIA, among other things.

O***M, EMPIRE AND THE GLOBAL POLITICAL ECONOMY by Dr. Carl Trocki basically says, whoever controls the o***m trade in a country, since the 1800s, controls that country’s economy. With that huge pile of money, they corrupt things, so we don’t really live in a “real” world. We live in a manufactured world [of the narratives they give us].

For instance, people tell me that Richard Nixon [accelerated up the ladder of success] by blackmailing the Dulles brothers after World War 2. He found that they were bringing many, maybe thousands, of N**is here against President Truman’s direct written orders. Nixon goes from being a representative in ’46, to the Senate in ‘50, to vice president in 1952. They used Nixon then in this big drama they create for the American people. It’s quite a mess, really.

Ari: Intelligence agencies create narratives for their political masters. For instance, they created a narrative that Assad in Syria was a monster, murdering his own people, in order to get rid of him. Now the people that took over Syria are considered peaceniks. Wonderful people. But remember who they are. They are al Qaeda people. We didn’t like al Qaeda. Now we love them. You asked about narratives in intelligence. There we go. There we are.

Kris: We get led this way. We get led that way. Where in the heck is a person to stand?

Kris reviews the stolen election narrative promoted by Trump and the money spent by Elon Musk to help Trump win in 2024, which may have led to some shenanigans that affected the voting. He reminds us that generations have been subjected to propaganda, then asks Ari what he thinks the future holds for the United States and for the Middle East.

Ari: I believe there will be peace in the Middle East once the deal between the United States and Iran is done and the Iranians become friends with the Arabs and the Israelis, they have to stop fighting. They have to stop feeling threatened.

Kris: Who’s going to do that?

Ari: Trump.

Kris: Well, it would make him a popular figure, wouldn’t it?

Ari: Five years ago, Trump was playing hardball with the Iranians. But he said he would go to Teheran [to make peace] if he were re-elected in 2020. That didn’t happen. But he’s been re-elected now. And I believe, between him and the Saudis, they’re going to make a deal with the Iranians. And Trump’s going to go and address the Iranian parliament.

Kris: Well, I hope something like that happens. I think that would be good.

Ari: And instead of giving Obama the Nobel Peace Prize, give it to crazy Trump.

Kris: We will see what happens.

Then Kris and Ari discuss the war in Ukraine and how the intelligence services created a narrative that the elected president was bad, to justify his ouster in a coup. They agree that Biden wasn’t very wise about Ukraine. And giving Israel a blank check was not a good idea.

Ari: Palestinians are also human beings.

Kris: Amen.

Ari: Biden is the person that got the most money from the Israeli lobby [over the past 40 years].

Kris: He didn’t stand up to Israel at all.

Ari: It isn’t about that. It’s about doing a global peace deal. Going back to Ukraine. Putin isn’t innocent, either. The advice he got in 2014 [to counter what was happening in Ukraine]. Instead, he should have killed the Ukrainians with love. Give them free gas. Let them travel to Europe visa-free. And other things. Instead, he got mad. He was insulted because Hillary Clinton, at some point, called him Hi**er. He should have risen above himself and killed the Ukrainians with love and things would have worked out. But he didn’t do that.

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 169Ari Ben-MenasheIntelligence Agencies Create Narratives (Will There Be Peace in the Mid...
21/12/2024

TrineDay’s The Journey Podcast 169
Ari Ben-Menashe
Intelligence Agencies Create Narratives (Will There Be Peace in the Middle East?)

Show link is in the comments.

Publisher Kris Millegan recently spoke with Ari Ben-Menashe, author of PROFITS OF WAR: Inside the Secret U.S.-Israeli Arms Network. Ari spent more than a decade in the innermost circles of Israeli intelligence. He not only was privy to the secret negotiations with the Iranians to delay the release of the American hostages until after the election of Ronald Reagan. He is the man who paid the Iranians for the hostages.

Summary and paraphrasing:

Kris wanted to talk about intelligence work and geopolitics. His father had been in intelligence (the CIA) and he told Kris some things. Kris had to read a lot of books about intelligence to understand what he had been told.

Kris: We’re doing a book right now called TWO WORLD WARS AND HI**ER: Who was Responsible? Its main idea is that Britain was very concerned about Germany and Russia getting together, because then they could control the heartland [of central Asia] and then they could quote-unquote control the world. So, in the late 1800s, Britain started laying a path toward World War I. Then once in the war, they prolonged it. Americans and British and other people shipped foodstuffs to keep the German army going so the war could continue to last.

After the war, they got Germany into such a state that they signed a piece of paper saying that they were responsible for the war. And when you really look at it, [you find that is not true]. Then we manipulated the economy and sent in agents to raise up Hi**er so that they could have a second war. Is that true, Ari, to your understanding?

Ari: Yeah. The British probably did that. Yes. After the first World War, they helped a lady named Rosa Luxemburg take over Germany, and she singlehandedly destroyed the economy. When an extreme lefty takes over, the next thing is that a real rightwing fascist N**i will take over because that’s what the people will want. From one extreme to the other.

Kris: Right.

Ari: And she was Jewish. So, when Hi**er’s regime takes over, they all hated Jews. And the communist revolution in Russia was also Jewish people. [Helped with money from non-Jews.] So, the troubles of the world could be blamed on the Jews. That’s how World War 2 started. And Hi**er was going to go after the Russians. But he was willing to deal with them, and tried to do regime change, and shared Poland with them. And that really scared the Brits. Yes, the Brits instigated the two world wars.

Kris: When I look at intelligence deeply, really what I see is the creation of narratives.

Ari: Absolutely right.

Kris: The creation of the mega-narratives to influence history, you might say. For instance, my father told me, “The Vietnam War is about drugs. There are these secret societies behind it. And communism is all a sham. These same secret societies are behind it all. It’s all a big game.” I thought he was nuts. But he wasn’t. He’d been branch chief, head of the East Asia Analysis Office for the CIA, among other things.

O***M, EMPIRE AND THE GLOBAL POLITICAL ECONOMY by Dr. Carl Trocki basically says, whoever controls the o***m trade in a country, since the 1800s, controls that country’s economy. With that huge pile of money, they corrupt things, so we don’t really live in a “real” world. We live in a manufactured world [of the narratives they give us].

For instance, people tell me that Richard Nixon [accelerated up the ladder of success] by blackmailing the Dulles brothers after World War 2. He found that they were bringing many, maybe thousands, of N**is here against President Truman’s direct written orders. Nixon goes from being a representative in ’46, to the Senate in ‘50, to vice president in 1952. They used Nixon then in this big drama they create for the American people. It’s quite a mess, really.

Ari: Intelligence agencies create narratives for their political masters. For instance, they created a narrative that Assad in Syria was a monster, murdering his own people, in order to get rid of him. Now the people that took over Syria are considered peaceniks. Wonderful people. But remember who they are. They are al Qaeda people. We didn’t like al Qaeda. Now we love them. You asked about narratives in intelligence. There we go. There we are.

Kris: We get led this way. We get led that way. Where in the heck is a person to stand?

Kris reviews the stolen election narrative promoted by Trump and the money spent by Elon Musk to help Trump win in 2024, which may have led to some shenanigans that affected the voting. He reminds us that generations have been subjected to propaganda, then asks Ari what he thinks the future holds for the United States and for the Middle East.

Ari: I believe there will be peace in the Middle East once the deal between the United States and Iran is done and the Iranians become friends with the Arabs and the Israelis, they have to stop fighting. They have to stop feeling threatened.

Kris: Who’s going to do that?

Ari: Trump.

Kris: Well, it would make him a popular figure, wouldn’t it?

Ari: Five years ago, Trump was playing hardball with the Iranians. But he said he would go to Teheran [to make peace] if he were re-elected in 2020. That didn’t happen. But he’s been re-elected now. And I believe, between him and the Saudis, they’re going to make a deal with the Iranians. And Trump’s going to go and address the Iranian parliament.

Kris: Well, I hope something like that happens. I think that would be good.

Ari: And instead of giving Obama the Nobel Peace Prize, give it to crazy Trump.

Kris: We will see what happens.

Then Kris and Ari discuss the war in Ukraine and how the intelligence services created a narrative that the elected president was bad, to justify his ouster in a coup. They agree that Biden wasn’t very wise about Ukraine. And giving Israel a blank check was not a good idea.

Ari: Palestinians are also human beings.

Kris: Amen.

Ari: Biden is the person that got the most money from the Israeli lobby [over the past 40 years].

Kris: He didn’t stand up to Israel at all.

Ari: It isn’t about that. It’s about doing a global peace deal. Going back to Ukraine. Putin isn’t innocent, either. The advice he got in 2014 [to counter what was happening in Ukraine]. Instead, he should have killed the Ukrainians with love. Give them free gas. Let them travel to Europe visa-free. And other things. Instead, he got mad. He was insulted because Hillary Clinton, at some point, called him Hi**er. He should have risen above himself and killed the Ukrainians with love and things would have worked out. But he didn’t do that.

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