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Two friends deep-dive into the complicated women of books, movies and TV shows, as well as the women that bring them to life behind the scenes.
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The podcast we need for the 2020s!

07/11/2024

On this episode of Debut Discussions, romance author Alyssa Jarrett shares her journey from a passionate reader to a published writer of a four-part series. She discusses her second installment, Love on the Rocks, an opposites-attract rom-com that proves love is the most exciting adventure of all. Blending Silicon Valley satire with romantic comedy, Love On The Rocks explores themes of anxiety, trust, and personal growth.

Alyssa chats with us about the importance of relatable characters and the influence of pop culture in her writing, while also reflecting on her own experiences in the tech industry and how they shape her storytelling. We also talk about the complexities of celebrity relationships, the impact of reality TV on self-identity, the struggles of professional identity, rock climbing as a romantic metaphor, and astrology as a way into characters.

Listen now to ’s story wherever you get your podcasts. Love On The Rocks is out now — buy it, read it, and share it (and also check out Love Apptually!).

04/11/2024

In today’s episode we’re discussing the Netflix documentary on Martha Stewart, a model turned stockbroker turned domestic goddess and CEO, the “original influencer,” the first self-made female billionaire, and an expert at reinventing her brand and doing it on her own terms. The Martha documentary explores the price of her quest for perfection, but it’s her imperfections — including her inability to accept them — that make her most interesting to us. Perhaps the OG “unlikable woman,” Martha provides us with a whole lot to discuss beyond her incredible business success, including her own criticisms of the doc – listen now wherever you get your podcasts (link in bio)!

28/10/2024

We’re continuing our theme of cultural flashback TV pilots inspired by … delving into Veronica Mars, Kristen Bell’s cult classic series in which she plays a seventeen-year-old anti-establishment high school student and private detective. We were surprised by the complexities of the show, its dark themes, character motivations, and intricate storytelling. The show is a unique blend of teen drama and neo-noir elements, with a healthy dose of mommy issues, class warfare, s*xual assault, and mysteries to unravel. This is one loaded pilot episode that really surprised us!

Our recap of the pilot episode js available wherever you get your podcasts!

25/10/2024

On this episode of Complicated Conversations we welcome New York Times bestselling author, Alison Espach, to discuss her Read With Jenna Book Club pick, The Wedding People, a propulsive and uncommonly wise novel about one unexpected wedding guest and the surprising people who help us start anew.

We chat with Alison about her development of the two complex women at the heart of this novel, Phoebe and Lila; the importance of honesty for human connection; her exploration of themes of grief, loss, transformation, and rebirth; her use of literary references; and the new way she has us thinking about using tarot cards!

The Wedding People is out now! Buy it, read it, share it, and listen to our spoiler-free chat with .espach wherever you get your podcasts.

22/10/2024

On today’s episode we’re discussing Woman of the Hour, a new Netflix movie based on the true story of a serial killer who appeared on the popular 70s TV show, The Dating Game. Directed by and starring Anna Kendrick, the movie is a true crime drama that - thankfully - isn’t focused on the killer. This subtly subversive film is a story about women’s violence that has so much space for women’s emotions. It is the kind of movie that, as we approach our five year anniversary, reminds us why we started this podcast in the first place! Have you watched it yet?

Our recap is available now wherever you get your podcasts (and link in bio).

16/10/2024

Another incredible season of comes to end and we are yet again going out with Mr. Brightside by The Killers (this one an incredible cover by Cat Missal, the actress who plays Bree!). We recap episodes 6-8, marveling at how these writers can create consistently complicated, three-dimensional characters, ramp up the tension and toxicity, surprise and shock us, and leave us wanting more (immediately!). Nothing but the highest respect for creator , the writers room, and the entire cast! Bravo on another stellar season - the gift that keeps on giving to our conversations here at PFW!

14/10/2024

We just can’t ignore the resurgence of early 2000s heartthrobs like Joshua Jackson and Adam Brody. The inspiration from Nobody Wants This has us taking it back to 2003 and doing a recap of the pilot episode of The O.C.! We chat about the nostalgia surrounding the show, its influence and impact on subsequent teen dramas, the significance of its soundtrack, and the young stars whose careers were launched by the show. This pilot is as entertaining now as it was back then! Come reminisce with us - episode available wherever you get your podcasts!

09/10/2024

On this episode of Debut Discussions Asha Elias discusses her debut novel, Pink Glass Houses, a seductive social satire about the wealthy PTA moms of an elite elementary school in Miami Beach.

Asha chats with Carinn about the unexpected joys of launching a book; her journey to becoming a writer; the themes explored in her novel; character development; the writing process; and how her column for the Miami New Times influences her fiction. Asha also touches on her second book (out in summer 2025!) and highlights the power of art to change cultural narratives and the importance of connection in storytelling.

Listen now to .sue.elias story wherever you get your podcasts. Pink Glass Houses is out now — buy it, read it, and share it (in other words, make a debut author’s dreams come true!).

07/10/2024

In today’s episode we’re discussing Nobody Wants This on Netflix, which based on our feelings and the general reception, should actually be called EVERYBODY Wants This! This utterly bingeable romcom starring Kristen Bell and Adam Brody has all the hallmarks of a great romcom…undeniable chemistry between the two leads (who knew how badly we needed Veronica Mars and Seth Cohen to get together!), a stellar ensemble cast, high stakes tension, characters working through their damage, and laugh out loud humor. We discuss creator Erin Foster and her real life inspo for the show, Joanne and Noah’s meet cute, THAT first kiss scene (“hand me your ice cream!”), the ICK and whether it truly can be overcome, the sibling dynamics, and what it means to be called “too much” as a woman. The show is not perfect, and we discuss that as well, but hopefully the reason you tune in to us is to hear our nuanced discussion of things we love.

We’ve got ALOT to say about this show - listen now wherever you get your podcasts!

30/09/2024

On this episode of Debut Discussions, Jamie Harrow shares her journey from a sports-loving child to a lawyer and finally to a novelist with her book One on One, a workplace, enemies-to-lovers debut for anyone yearning for a courtside romance. 🏀 ❤️

We chat with Jamie about her reading and writing evolution, the development of her characters, and the themes of trust and connection in her work. Jamie discusses the impact of sports on personal relationships, her experiences with reality TV (and how she worked it into her novel!), and the publishing process - from finding her dream agent to getting the book deal. She also touches on her interest in astrology and gives us a sneak peak into her next novel.

Listen now to ’ story wherever you get your podcasts. One On One is out now — buy it, read it, and share it (in other words, make a debut author’s dreams come true!).

25/09/2024

On this episode of Complicated Conversations we welcome Stephanie Wrobel to discuss her suspenseful new novel, The Hitchcock Hotel, a story about a Hitchcock fanatic with an agenda who invites old friends for a weekend stay at his secluded themed hotel. As the past is revealed, tensions rise, loyalties break down, and chaos ensues.

Stephanie chats with Carinn about her inspiration for the book and how she incorporated Hitchcockian elements into the story, her *very cool* approach to writing multiple points of view, the importance of setting in her storytelling, which in this novel includes the creepy hotel and Stephanie’s own campus nostalgia.

The Hitchcock Hotel is out now - buy it, read it, share it, and listen to our spoiler-free chat with wherever you get your podcasts.

23/09/2024

In this episode of Complicated Conversations we welcome Marissa Stapley, the author of New York Times bestseller and Reese’s Book Club pick Lucky, to discuss her new novel, The Lightning Bottles, a story about grunge-era musician Jane Pyre’s journey to find out what really happened to her husband and partner in music, who abruptly disappeared years earlier.

We chat with Marissa about the personal and musical inspirations behind this novel (which she calls the “book of her heart”); her exploration of themes around fame, female representation in music, and the complexities of public perception; the significance of art and mystery in storytelling; the impact of mid-career success; the role of astrology in character development and our shared interest in tarot; and the enduring influence of Khalil Gibran’s The Prophet (which she hopes everyone will read again or for the first time!).

We felt deeply connected to in this conversation - listen now to hear our spoiler-free chat! The Lightning Bottles is out tomorrow. Buy it, read it, and share it!

16/09/2024

On this episode of Complicated Conversations we welcome Laura Dave, the #1 New York Times bestselling author of The Last Thing He Told Me, to discuss her new novel, The Night We Lost Him, another riveting page-turner about estranged siblings who discover their father has been keeping a secret for more than fifty years, one that may have been fatal…

We chat with Laura about defining her own genre of soulful suspense and family drama that you just can’t put down; her inspiration for the characters and the exploration of family connections; exploring themes of showing up for oneself, handling grief, love, loyalty, and the concept of being seen and understood by others; and the connection between Laura’s writing and her astrological sign. We also get some great musical inspiration from songs she listens to while writing!

The Night We Lost Him is out tomorrow and it is that rare genre-bending page-turner that exists in a category all its own! Buy it, read it, share it, and listen to our spoiler-free chat with wherever you get your podcasts.

13/09/2024

In this episode of Complicated Conversations we welcome back Kimberly McCreight to discuss her new novel, Like Mother, Like Daughter, an emotional mystery about a mother’s disappearance and the journey of a daughter trying to find her.

We chat with Kimberly about the complexities of motherhood and our shared parenting challenges; the inspiration for this novel; her “orchestral” form of storytelling (which here includes flashbacks, journal entries, therapy transcripts and legal documents); the importance of staying open to unexpected connections in her writing; and the woo woo tools we use to sustain us in midlife!

Like Mother, Like Daughter is out now! Buy it, read it, share it, and listen to our spoiler-free chat with wherever you get your podcasts!

06/09/2024

Season Two of is back and so far it manages to take all the best parts of Season One and build on perfect additional layers, characters and storylines! Our recap of Episodes 1 & 2 of the hit Hulu series is out now and we’re discussing the new love interests, gasp-worthy moments, surprising connections, and our favorite moments/scenes. Have you watched yet? Hurry up then come listen when you’re done!

02/09/2024

On this episode of Complicated Conversation we welcome Chelsea Bieker to discuss her new novel Madwoman, an emotionally gripping story about Clove, a mother who has constructed a perfect life based on lies. When she receives a letter from her mother in prison, her past comes crashing back, and she must confront the truth.

We chat with Chelsea about themes of motherhood, reinvention, the desire for self-improvement, the complexities of justice and pity, intergenerational trauma, the impact of male violence, and the healing power of storytelling. She tells us about her choice to use the second-person narrative and the intimately vulnerable power of addressing the reader directly. This novel will stay with you as it has with us long after you turn the last page.

Madwoman is out now and it’s a September pick! Buy it, read it, share it, and listen to our spoiler-free chat with wherever you get your podcasts.

26/08/2024

On this episode of Complicated Conversations, we welcome back Colleen McKeegan to discuss her sophomore novel, Riptide, a heartfelt and suspenseful story about two sisters returning to their childhood beachfront home who are forced to confront their traumatic past when a body washes ashore.

We chat with about the two sisters at the heart of Riptide, Kimmy and Erin, and their complicated bond, weaving from their high school years and their present-day lives in their early 30s; the use of this dual timeline to build tension and explore the ways the past infects the present; the nostalgia of the early 2000s; the themes of female desire, slut-shaming, and the portrayal of s*x in the novel; and finding that perfect title.

Riptide is out now! Buy it, read it, share it, and listen to our spoiler-free chat with Colleen wherever you get your podcasts!

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In our interview with @carolatlovering we discuss an article she wrote for Marie Claire in which she shares what she has learned (the hard way) about ambition and juggling the demands of writing and being a mother. In the conversation, we get personal and discuss our struggles with learning to say no, prioritizing and delegating. Listen to this clip and then check out our full interview with Carola about her new novel, Can’t Look Away, wherever you get your podcasts!

In celebration of the paperback release of Seven Days In June by @tiawilliamswrites, Kate fluffed her 🦁mane in honor of her fellow Leo, Tia, and took to the humiliating medium of video to share just a few of the reasons we love this book so much. We know we’re not alone (hellooo @reesesbookclub pick) so share your love in comments! And listen to our interview with Tia on #SevenDaysInJune (and our prior interview on #ThePerfectFind) wherever you get your podcasts (link in bio and stories).

SOUND ON - LISTEN NOW to a clip from our recent episode on The Lost Daughter. Are all the women in this photo “unnatural mothers”? Are we ALL because society’s expectations of mothers are unnatural and unrealistic? We can’t stop thinking about this idea and motherhood generally. If you want to deep dive with us, check out our episode now (link in bio)!

Listen to this clip from our episode on Promising Young Woman where our special guest host, @caroclaireburke, blows our minds with her reminder that really good art forces you to re-examine the world around you and how this movie wakes us up, changing everything in a moment! We couldn’t agree more. Listen now to our full episode on Promising Young Woman & Emerald Fennell (screenwriter and director) wherever you get your podcasts.

Sound on! Listen to hear this clip about how Thelma & Louise helped us further solidify the mission of this podcast! Our episode on a familiar classic really surprised us in the best possible ways, the ways that truly matter. We hope you’ll listen and let us know what you think! Ever Thelma needs a Louise and every Louise needs a Thelma. Or as we like to say, every Carinn needs a Kate and every Kate needs a Carinn! #rideordiechick

Listen to the full audiogram clip to hear YOU showrunner, Sera Gamble, discuss her connection to the witch archetype. Hang on while we grab our broomsticks and continue to speak out and be brave! There are no Season 3 spoilers so listen now to our interview with Sera. (Link in bio)

It’s “Sally Sunday” and our fourth and final installment of our read-along recaps, covering pages 247 through the end of Beautiful World, Where Are You, is out now! We’re so sad to say goodbye to our Sally Sundays and the conversations her novel prompts for us. We’ve saved the best for last! We discuss Simon & Eileen’s growth and how the ways they each love has caused us to question our own relationships. There is room on the couch for both of us on this one! Alice & Felix are a dramatic, fiery pair, but we love the ways in which they come together. Of course we talk about that ending and whether it feels like Sally or not. In our true “what she said” fashion, we can’t finish our recaps without deep diving into first person quotes from Sally herself. She gives us this gem about unlikeable characters that we will hold onto forever - listen to hear the whole quote! Thanks for reading along with us!

We’re back with what we’re calling “the middle and the miscommunications” in our “Sally Sundays”. We have your read-along recap of pages 147-247 of Beautiful World, Where Are You. On this episode we debate the miscommunication spectrum of Eileen & Simon, Alice & Felix and Marianne & Connell (listen to the snippet of our chat) and go deep into how power dynamics between two people factor into miscommunications. We put ourselves and the characters “on the couch” and ask big questions like: Does love come before a relationship or does a relationship come before love? What is the “hate” in the thin line between love and hate? What are you really desiring? Our brains hurt just writing this but, to use Sally’s own words from this section, her novel certainly engages our sympathies! Keep reading along with us into Sally’s beautiful (and complicated) world!

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