At Last She Said It

07/11/2025

It seems we can never talk enough about grace! After several years of having these journey conversations with women in the ALSSI community, I've decided all roads—even the bumpiest ones—seem to lead to this same river. —Susan

06/11/2025

"The worst thing that happens is that eventually there's a course correction, because God is just that good. And you know, I've got this crappy messaging my whole life that I'm not valuable till someone values me, and I sure got a wake up call, and it wasn't by my own doing. So yeah, God's going to hold us in whatever state we are in, so trust yourself and you'll get there." —Whitney

06/11/2025

Our Friday Live Chats are great discussions! For November 2025, they will be held the 7th and the 21st, at 10:00 am Mtn. The Zoom link is always dropped right before the meeting starts in our regular Substack chat. No need to register. We look forward to seeing you soon!

05/11/2025

When Whitney said this in our conversation, I was struck by the fact that I had somehow received the same message. For me, I think it was a side-effect of growing up steeping in a culture of worthiness. I internalized the idea that God wouldn't really value me until I met a bunch of conditions, so how could I value myself? Unfortunately it spilled onto other relationships too. Always trying to prove my value. Of course not all church members absorbed this message, but I'm willing to bet Whitney and I are not the only ones who did. —Susan

04/11/2025

Each Latter-day Saint’s path looks different, a combination of unique experiences, choices, and challenges. No matter how insistent our culture may sometimes feel, no woman fits in a mold. “I think my life began with holding dissonance,” explains comedian Whitney Call. “I grew up in a very faithful LDS family...but a little squidgy around the edges. We would go to church and activities every week, and we’d watch the Simpsons together on Sunday nights. We’d bear our testimonies to each other, and we used crude humor about sex.” In Episode 243, Cynthia and Susan are joined by Whitney for a wide-ranging conversation about all of it—how it started, how it’s going, and one thing she knows right now (or did at the time of recording).

CW: po*******hy, sexuality

02/11/2025

I mentioned on episode 242 that the typical transactional prayer of me asking for stuff never really worked, but now that I have shifted to communal prayers, I've never been disappointed yet. What about you? ~Cynthia

01/11/2025

Who are we to think we have anything to add to the TOPIC OF GOD?! But we tried to share our imaginations this week on the podcast. Again! What do you imagine?

31/10/2025

What's your metric for whether something comes from God? This line is from our book, but we talk about it on this week's episode as well.

30/10/2025

What if nothing is required of us to "hang out with the divine"? What if we don't need to be better, holier, worthier, or go through anyone? We hope you enjoy Episode 242 this week where we attempt to put words to the big topic of God.

29/10/2025

28/10/2025

No matter what language we use to describe the Divine, for spiritual seekers the hope is that our understanding and connection will continue to expand and deepen. As Richard Rohr reminds us, “God is always bigger than the boxes we build for God, so we should not spend too much time protecting the boxes.” In Episode 242, Cynthia and Susan take another look at the spaces where their own ‘god-boxes’ used to be: It’s two women getting personal about what’s new, what’s not, and where and how they’re seeking communion and/or communication now.

27/10/2025

Monday already? Cynthia and I have had a great time in ABQ with the CAC! Green chile, endless sunshine, amazing friends, church with Richard Rohr, Greg Boyle, Mirabai Starr, Diana Butler Bass, Brian McLaren...everyone and everything that nourishes us body and soul! It's hard to say goodbye. Wish you'd all been here!
—Susan