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20/01/2025

--Can Reformed Baptists Be Reformed?--
Can Baptists actually be Reformed? To answer that, we probably have to answer another question, “What does it mean to be Reformed in the first place? Is it a tradition, a specific set of beliefs, or something else entirely?

There are a lot of online debates and discussions about whether Baptists can be Reformed or not. And while some of those debates are just good-natured ribbing between Presbyterians and Baptists, it’s a subject worth thinking about seriously. When Baptists say they are “reformed” what do they mean, and are they correct? In one sense, the term “reformed” doesn’t have only one definition or use. Words are like that, in the abstract, they can have multiple definitions. But when a specific word is actually used, such as to identify a group of Baptists, that use must have one specific meaning. So are Reformed Baptists really Reformed?

In this episode, we want to talk about why Reformed Bapsists are Reformed and what we mean by that. We discuss some of the history of the Protestant Reformation and how Reformed Baptists emerged as a group in the UK. We discuss some of the doctrines that are specific to being considered Reformed, and we also talk about the unifying spirit of the Reformation that existed well before Luther or Calvin and goes back to the leadership and direction of Christ and His Spirit.

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2025/01/can-reformed-baptists-be-reformed-ep-202-audio/

Timecodes
00:00 What Does it Mean to Be Reformed?
17:36 Soteriology
28:42 Covenants
50:19 Credobaptism

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Permanent Hosts - Dan Horn, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director - Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music - Gabriel Hudelson

14/01/2025

--When Should a Pastor Be Permanently Removed?--
Does the Bible teach that there are sins serious enough that a pastor should be permanently removed and never be able to serve as a pastor again? Frequently, when an elder or a pastor falls into sin, people immediately start to say that they hope he can repent, so he can resume his ministry. This is often because the pastor was particularly gifted in preaching or teaching or leading the church. He often had a great deal of charisma or motivation, when it is easy for people to look at this gifted man and think that it would be a shame for the church to lose his talent and ability. But that is looking at it from man's perspective. God is far more concerned about his reputation and protecting his glorious bride, the church.

So what does scripture say about removing a man from office permanently? Please join us as we discuss this important topic.

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2025/01/when-should-a-pastor-be-permanently-removed-ep-201-audio/

Timecodes
00:00:00 Calling of Elders
00:10:17 Removal of False Shepherds
00:28:03 Theft
00:33:38 Sexual Abuse of the Flock
00:40:38 Abusing the Weak
00:48:43 Not Seeking Lost Sheep
00:58:46 Force and Cruelty Towards the Sheep
01:11:42 Could a Polygamist Be an Elder?

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Permanent Hosts - Dan Horn, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director - Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music - Gabriel Hudelson

02/12/2024

--Benny Hinn is Going to Hell - Why Is Anyone Following Him?--
Benny Hinn is a false teacher that has millions of global followers. And while in the US, he is more likely to be seen as a false teacher, in Nigeria, as in many other parts of the world, there are many who are deceived by him and his teaching. But why is this?

In this episode we want to look at how Benny Hinn sells himself and his heresies to make himself acceptable. We spend a little bit of time talking about his background and his mentor Kathryn Kulman and how he was shaped by her techniques. We also discuss his pattern of appealing to the flesh and to fleshly desires. As a carnal man Benny Hinn does not understand spiritual things and those he is trying to attract do not understand them either, so Hinn creates his own carnally-inspired mystical approach to spiritual things. This is really important to understand, because even many Christians have grown up in churches where spiritual things are not taught clearly. We also talk about Hinn’s recent false repentance, which was really just a means to distance himself from certain actions and not any actual repentance at all.

Benny Hinn should not be a threat to anyone. But because of how little influence and credibility the church has, he can sell his carnal “spirituality” and lead many to hell. Please join us as discuss this important topic.

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/12/benny-hinn-is-going-to-hell-why-is-anyone-following-him-ep-196-audio/

Timecodes
00:00 Intro
02:27 God sends false prophets
09:46 Contend for the truth
25:43 Appeals to the flesh
40:49 Fake repentance
48:25 Pseudo Knowledge
59:32 How to spot false teachers

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Permanent Hosts - Dan Horn, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director - Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music - Gabriel Hudelson

19/11/2024

--Are Seminaries Biblical? Who Did God Appoint to Train Pastors?--
Before the Reformation, illiteracy was widespread. When the Reformers started to say that people needed to study the word of God for themselves, the importance of learning dramatically increased and people like Luther and Calvin started schools. Pastors were suddenly expected to be knowledgeable. Before this, people could occupy a high level in the church and not really know any doctrine. The Roman Catholic response with the counter Reformation at the council of Trent was to call for seminaries. Over time that became the standard means of education for Protestants as well, but it really is not in the bible, so are seminaries a good idea?

In this episode, we want to discuss what caused the seminary model to become dominant, and to take it back to scripture. We also think it’s worth pushing on the idol of knowledge for knowledge’s sake. While knowledge is not bad, scripture gives the warning that it puffs up. When you combine this danger with the fact that the majority of seminary graduates are effectively novices who have had very little real-world experience or training, it is easy to see why there can be serious problems with the seminary system.

One of the metaphors that scripture uses for a church body is that of a family or household of faith, with the leaders being older brothers (elders) and the body itself being composed of brothers and sisters doing the work of their Father in the world and serving one another and the body in general in different capacities. Is it possible that like in earthly families, our heavenly father has made a way for his sons to be trained to lead? Please join us as we discuss this important topic.

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/11/are-seminaries-biblical-who-did-god-appoint-to-train-pastors-ep-194-audio/

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Timecodes
00:00:00 Duty to Train
00:07:51 Focus on Education
00:12:57 Biblical Qualifications
00:27:46 Priesthood of all believers
01:11:35 Advantages of Seminaries

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Permanent Hosts - Dan Horn, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director - Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music - Gabriel Hudelson

12/11/2024

--Peanut the Squirrel: A Weird Story with Surprising Lessons--
One of the stranger stories to come out of the 2024 presidential elections is the story of Peanut the squirrel and Dave the raccoon. In case you haven't heard here's the short version: in upstate New York, early one morning, the government sent agents to the house of Mark Longo, a man who ran a non-profit animal shelter. Mark also had a popular Instagram account featuring a squirrel named Peanut that he had rescued seven years before and kept at his home. According to the man, the Department of Environmental Conservation raided his home with ten to twelve agents. They searched the home for five hours while they detained him. Finally, they took Peanut and a raccoon. They said that Peanut bit an officer, so they killed them both.

While this story is very strange, it apparently struck a nerve with many people with support for either Mark and Peanut or the government fracturing along partisan lines. In this episode we want to look at the ways these issues reveal different details about American culture, politics, and the influence of the church.

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/11/peanut-the-squirrel-a-weird-story-with-surprising-lessons-ep-192-audio/

Timecodes
00:00:00 Tender Mercies
00:06:11 Human Life
00:18:39 Taking Dominion
00:28:00 Perversity
00:31:38 Partisanship
00:42:24 Government Overreach

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Permanent Hosts - Dan Horn, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director - Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music - Gabriel Hudelson

21/10/2024

--Steve Lawson, False Teachers, and Works Based Righteousness--
Most people who hold to a Calvinistic view of salvation probably think they have rejected works-based righteousness. But when sin is revealed in a leader, why do so many turn to that man’s works to assure themselves that he is truly saved? This was the response of many when Steve Lawson was removed from office. And in the last sermon he preached before his removal, this was Steve Lawson’s defense of himself as well.

Scripture teaches us that we can have assurance of salvation. But it warns us that even though we can examine our inward motivations, we are susceptible to deceiving ourselves (Philippians 2:12-13, I Corinthians 11:28-32). When it comes to other people, scripture is very clear, we can NEVER be assured of someone else’s salvation in the same way. But more importantly, scripture teaches that while those who have been saved still sin, those who walk in sin or practice sin, ARE NOT saved. (Galatians 5:16-24, I John 1:16). To say it a different way, we can be more assured that someone else is NOT saved than that they are. And this bothers many people.

In his last sermon, which was on John the Baptist, Steve Lawson suddenly says the following: “And you should not judge a man by his one weak moment you need to look at the whole body of his work you need to look at his whole message. You need to look at his whole ministry and don't judge him on one hiccup that happens.” And while you may disagree that this statement was connected to what was about to happen to Steve Lawson and his ministry, it is a perfect example of how he was defended by many.

So here’s the question: how susceptible are you to a work-based righteousness defense of salvation? Not where you say, “good works are the necessary fruit of salvation”, but where you are tempted to weigh the good works vs the bad? Because that’s not found in scripture. Nowhere does God say that we should reassure ourselves of someone’s salvation because they have done many good works. That is the proclamation of the lawless who stand before God in the day of judgment: ""Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them. ""Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!' Matthew 7:15-23

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/10/steve-lawson-false-teachers-and-works-based-righteousness-ep-190-audio/

Timecodes
00:00:00 Lawson and Works
00:08:06 Wolves
00:14:54 Celebrity Pastors
00:22:47 Did Lawson Teach Works Based Righteousness?
00:31:54 Reformation Day Ad
00:32:49 Works Based Righteousness
00:45:14 Attacks on the Flock
01:00:17 Biblical Examples

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Permanent Hosts - Dan Horn, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director - Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music - Gabriel Hudelson

14/10/2024

--Did God Send the Hurricanes? Understanding God’s Judgment--
In the past weeks, several hurricanes have struck the United States, killing hundreds and displacing millions. Many professing Christians are offended if you say that God sent these hurricanes as judgment, but we’d like to argue that this is because we tend to think very shallowly about the judgment of God. And while disaster striking an area does not inherently mean that God judged the people who lived there because they were the most evil and vilest of sinners, scripture clearly teaches God ordains all events and that he is the one who kills and makes alive (Deuteronomy 32:29), who brings peace or sends calamity (Isaiah 45:7).

In this episode, we want to discuss what the Bible says about natural disasters and God’s judgment. We start out by framing the issue, reviewing scripture explaining how God’s wrath is revealed to man (Psalm 10 and Romans 1) and establishing His authority as Lord over all the earth. We then walk through some of the many passages that show God’s judgment through storms and other disasters and how He uses them to punish, warn, demonstrate his power, teach men to fear God, and demonstrate the danger and power of sin. Please join us as we discuss this very important topic.

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/10/did-god-send-the-hurricanes-understanding-gods-judgment-ep-189-audio/

Timecodes
00:00:00 Understanding God's Providence
00:09:33 Worship of Nature
00:20:47 God's Judgment
00:30:23 Punishment
00:39:37 Warning
00:47:44 Praise
01:00:22 Increasing Fear of God
01:02:31 As Metaphor
01:06:39 Showing the Difference of Christians

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Permanent Hosts - Dan Horn, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director - Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music - Gabriel Hudelson

16/09/2024

--What God’s Law Says About Divorce, Remarriage, and Abandonment--
There are well-meaning Christians who teach that no one should ever be allowed to remarry after divorce. The main problem with that interpretation is that God divorced and remarried. Spiritually, God is only ever married to the invisible church, but that is not true in an earthly sense. According to Scripture, God divorced Israel and He was divorced from Judah when he came to them and they put him to death. But then Christ is betrothed to the church, with his death paying the bride price. So, if God, who is perfectly righteous, divorced and remarried what does that mean for us?

In this episode, we want to discuss what scripture teaches about marriage, divorce, remarriage, and abandonment. We will look at the Old Testament law of divorce and see how its substance and intent are consistent with Christ’s and Paul’s teachings in the New Testament. We will look at marriage as both a picture of the gospel and of Christ and the church and how the message throughout scripture of “hardness of heart” is a central theme demonstrated through the differences between the old and new covenant.

Marriage is an important institution, and while God hates divorce, he hates hardness of heart even more. While the church needs to protect the importance and sanctity of marriage by requiring fidelity, the church must also recognize that hardness of heart can bring a marriage to an end. When we deny this, we obscure the perfect righteousness of God. Please join us as we discuss this very important topic.

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/09/what-gods-law-says-about-divorce-remarriage-and-abandonment-ep-186-audio/

Timecodes
00:00 Purpose of Marriage
18:01 Christ's Teaching
28:39 Hardness of Heart
41:32 Paul's Teaching
52:43 Exceptions
59:19 Conclusion

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Permanent Hosts - Dan Horn, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director - Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music - Gabriel Hudelson

19/08/2024

--How the Heresy of Charles Finney Shaped America--
Charles Finney was both an avid proponent of revivalism and a relentless enemy of Reformed doctrine in the early American Church. Finney himself was a product of revivalism, professing faith in his late 20s at an emotional revival service. Finney quickly dedicated himself to the ministry, and began studying for his ordination as a Presbyterian minister.

Despite his studies, Finney claims that at his ordination he was ignorant of the doctrines contained in the Westminster Confession and catechism, asserting in his memoirs that when questioned, he stated that he, “received it for substance of doctrine, so far as I understood it. But I spoke in a way that plainly implied, I think, that I did not pretend to know much about it.” Later, when he did study the confession and catechism he claimed to reject much of what it said. According to Finney and others, he openly preached against Reformed soteriology, arguing against it whenever it was spoken of in his presence.

When he was 43, Penny was appointed as Professor of Theology at Oberlin College. Two years later he became the minister of the church there, and fifteen years later still, he was officially appointed president of the college.

In this episode we want to focus on the influence that Finney had over American society and culture through his preaching and through the realization of his vision for Christianity through Oberlin College. Throughout its history Oberlin has been instrumental in influencing American culture and Society, occasionally for the good, but many times and in many ways for great evil. Because Finney's theology exalted man, the fruit of his ministry has been humanistic in nature. The idea that through social justice and fervent effort that man can by his own strength create heaven on Earth is an idea that traces back directly to Finney and while there were others certainly who shared his ideals and even who shaped him to some extent, Finney was in many ways the source and indefatigable champion of these views. Please join us as we examine the life and influence of Charles Finney and understand what Paul proclaimed: “For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.”

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/08/how-the-heresy-of-charles-finney-shaped-america-ep-182-audio/

Timecodes
00:00:00 Arminianism
00:05:50 Revivalism
00:15:01 Perfectionism
00:26:15 Man's Ability to Change the World
00:33:45 Oberlin and Women in Ministry
00:40:02 Oberlin and Abolition
00:44:33 Oberlin's Women Sufferage
00:47:30 Oberlin's Prohibition
00:50:32 Oberlin's Feminism
00:55:50 Oberlin's Homosexuality

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Hosts - Dan Horn, Jonathan Sides, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director - Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music - Gabriel Hudelson

05/08/2024

--Can Food Be Sinful? What the Bible Teaches About Health, Gluttony and Gratefulness--
The Bible has a lot to say about food, and from the beginning, we can see how food was related to sin, to sacrifices, and to the worship of God. There were also the food laws of Israel, which are frequently misunderstood. But through all of this, the Bible never teaches that a person’s health is tied to the food they eat. And this matters a great deal, because this is a common false teaching, even among the orthodox.

But the Bible does talk about health. It has to, because life and death are moral, spiritual issues. We understand this because anything to do with whether someone lives or dies will always be a moral topic because we understand that death exists because of sin and so we know that health issues must tie back to sin being in the world.

In this episode, we want to talk about what God’s word says about food and how we can please him with what we eat. In American culture, there is a lot of talk about eating healthy and frequently it is a power issue. Wives pressure their husbands to eat in certain ways. The US government has a food pyramid that is trying to tell people how they should eat. Doctors tell people how they should eat, but they find they have such little power, they frequently don't even bother even when there is actual scientific evidence behind their conclusions. The more health care is nationalized, the more government asserts its right to dictate what you eat. With all the manipulation about food, how should we relate food and health and what does God’s word teach us about all these things.

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/08/can-food-be-sinful-what-the-bible-teaches-about-health-gluttony-and-gratefulness-ep-180-audio/

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Timecodes
00:00:00 Intro
00:05:24 Body a Temple
00:19:12 Food and Idolatry
00:30:07 Clean and Unclean
00:37:58 Can Food be Good or Bad?
00:50:52 God Kills
00:57:12 Ungratefulness
01:01:13 Gluttony
01:15:00 Weaker Brothers

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Hosts - Dan Horn, Jonathan Sides, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director - Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music - Gabriel Hudelson

15/07/2024

--Do People Who Commit Su***de Go to Hell?--
Su***de has historically been a crime. This is true for many reasons, but one prevalent one is that it is difficult. If not impossible, to argue from the natural world that men own themselves. Everything about the world testifies to man’s dependence, his inability to create himself, provide for himself, or to exist without dependence upon others. We are born from our parents, totally dependent in so many ways and we end our lives in a similar state. From a scriptural perspective this is even more true as God says clearly that the world and all that is in it belongs to him. We are created for his good pleasure and have no claim to life or freedom apart from him.
In this episode, we want to start with the topic of su***de and move from there to discuss the fact that God owns our lives and that all men, whether they acknowledge God or not, know that they do not own themselves. We also discuss the difference between su***de and sacrifice and walk through some of the su***des and deaths in scripture and discuss how and why each of the different men died and whether they murdered themselves (ultimately out of pride) or sacrificed themselves for worthy reasons.

Su***de is serious and God treats it as self-murder. We should also treat it seriously and describe it as God sees it. Please join us as we discuss this important topic.

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/07/do-people-who-commit-su***de-go-to-hell-ep-177-audio/

Timecodes
00:00:00 Our Su***de Culture
00:07:14 Blackstone on Su***de
00:10:47 God's Life
00:17:13 Rise of Su***de
00:20:16 Does Su***de Send You to Hell?
00:33:31 Saul's Su***de
00:37:27 Ahithophel's Su***de
00:41:47 Zimri's Su***de
00:44:37 Judas's Su***de
00:51:31 Samson's Su***de
00:56:55 Christ's Death
00:58:11 Assisted Su***de

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Hosts - Dan Horn, Jonathan Sides, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director - Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music - Gabriel Hudelson

09/07/2024

--The Scandalous Origins of Dispensationalism--
Most people don’t know the history of dispensationalism. While many are familiar with the name John Nelson Darby and many more are familiar with C. I. Scofield (or at least with the Scofield Bible), very few know much about their lives, their actions,and their involvement with the creation of the doctrine. But it is a story worth knowing. And while a biblical view’s origin isn’t the most important thing to know about it, it should never be dismissed out of hand and should be considered.

Dispensationalism has, in many ways, always been driven by the headlines, as it arose in the wake of the French Revolution, and developed in the emotional and even mystical response to the impact the fall of the French monarchy had upon the world. So, in this episode, we want to look at the origins and history of dispensationalism, how it started, what was going on in the world, and what were the claims made by those who had a hand in founding it. Please join us as we discuss this fascinating historical topic.

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/07/the-scandalous-origins-of-dispensationalism-ep-176-audio/

Timecodes
00:00:00 Intro
00:04:18 Does it Matter if They Were Saved?
00:19:35 John Nelson Darby
00:22:37 Darby and the Kingdom
00:27:08 Darby and the Plymouth Brethren
00:36:53 Outtake
00:37:57 Back to the Brethren
00:40:25 Prophesy Conferences
00:48:03 Cyrus Schofield
01:04:40 Applications

27/06/2024

--Why Do People Become Jehovah's Witnesses? --
If you’ve lived in the US for long, you’ve probably had members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses come to your door at some point. How much do you know about them and what they believe? And what does their continued existence tell us about the world and the church today?

Similar to the Mormons in that they are a cult formed in the wake of the Second Great Awakening, the Jehovah's Witnesses started in 1870. Today, they are mostly known for their door-to-door witnessing and their booklets and other publications distributed by the “Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania”, the parent organization of most Jehovah’s Witness denominational ministries.

In this episode, we want to talk about Jehovah’s Witnesses, what they believe, and why they have continued to have some measure of success in the world. Joining us for this episode is Je’quan Underwood, a member of our church who has spent a fair bit of time talking to and witnessing to Jehovah’s Witnesses. Similar to Mormons, it’s easy to dismiss their claims as crazy, but the simple truth is that false religions exist because people are seeking to live in the world and to deal with their own sin and the sin of others without accepting the truth about Jesus Christ, Godhood, and the way of salvation. And while there are specific things that are useful to point out if you talk to a Jehovah’s Witness, there is no magic phrase or piece of information that you can give them to cause them to turn away from their false religion. The issue is spiritual, not intellectual. But at the same time, it’s useful to understand what they say they believe as false religions in each age of the church push against specific doctrines that offend the mind and heart of man. Please join us as we discuss this topic. .

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/06/why-do-people-become-jehovahs-witnesses-ep-174-audio/

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Timecodes
00:00:00 God's Name
00:06:29 Top Down Control
00:22:41 144,000
00:33:58 Salvation by Works
00:42:24 Trinity
01:06:21 Priesthood of All Believers
01:10:22 Perseverance of the Saints
01:11:28 Hell

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Hosts - Dan Horn, Jonathan Sides, Charles Churchill and Joshua Horn
Technical Director - Timothy Kaiser
Theme Music - Gabriel Hudelson

17/06/2024

--What is Saving Faith?--
If demons believe in God, then what else is required for salvation? What is the difference between normal faith and saving faith? On this episode we discuss this important issue.

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/06/what-is-saving-faith-ep-171-audio/

Timecodes
00:00:00 Faith in Hebrews 11
00:02:45 Believing the Promises
00:21:11 Visible Frames the Invisible
00:36:47 Implications of Having Faith
00:41:31 Faith in Children
00:44:08 Faith and Works
00:57:33 Hatred of Church Discipline
01:07:13 Concluding Thoughts

10/06/2024

--John MacArthur is Wrong about Eschatology: We Don’t “Lose Down Here”--
In 2021, John MacArthur preached a message to his church addressing how to think about Christianity’s decline in America. It starts out like this: “Hey, we tried. We honestly did. I think you did. I think I did. I mean I took interviews, I responded to questions I think we tried to have an influence on our nation last year.” He goes on to talk about how the world isn’t interested in Christianity and then he says this: “We don't win down here. We lose. You ready for that? Oh, you thought because you were a postmillennialist, you thought we're just going to go waltzing into the kingdom because you took over the world. No, we lose here. Get it? They killed Jesus, they killed all the apostles, we're all going to be persecuted. If any man come after me’, let him what, ‘deny himself’. Garbage of prosperity gospel. No, we don't win down here. Are you ready for that? Just to clear the air - I love this clarity - we don't win. We lose on this battlefield, but we win on the big one - the eternal one. “

His response is a good example of why we’ve been doing more episodes about eschatology lately and why we think it matters. Because those verses he quotes and references about persecution and denying ourselves are true, but they make absolutely no sense in the way he is using them. As much as we appreciate John MacArthur’s ministry, his teaching is really wrong on this. Even if you hold to dispensational theology, you shouldn’t think about those verses in that way. Denying yourself is not at odds with succeeding, some of the most successful people by any standard have been faithful Christians. Yes, it means you can’t pursue carnal things, but surely that’s not something a Christian would object to. And this isn’t something that’s only true in the New Covenant. Even in the Old Testament, Daniel was persecuted for his faith, he took up his cross and looked toward Jesus and he had a huge impact on the world around him. So did Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Obadiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Jesus all the apostles and countless others throughout history.

So in this episode, we want to really push on this issue. How should we think about the church’s success? How should we think about persecution and denying ourself? Are they at odds with one another? And along the way, should we expect the gospel to have an impact on the world around us? These are important questions. Please join us as we consider them.

Link to John MacArthur clip: https://youtube.com/shorts/5fr6lGeDRsQ?si=AZkuhoq--KLuN2_w
Link to full John MacArthur message:
https://youtu.be/N8revRpzF9Q?si=OwRgq55OMHuczn7S

Listen to the audio version here: https://theconqueringtruth.com/2024/06/john-macarthur-is-wrong-about-eschatology-we-dont-lose-down-here-ep-171-audio/

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00:00 The Video
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