06/06/2024
It is June once again. This is the anniversary of the first episode of The Subtext Podcast. Whenever we hit this month I reflect a bit on the years of episode and think about the future. It’s been 9 years since that first episode with Madhuri Shekar was released. It never really occurred to me until now that if Madhuri wasn’t the first, The Subtext might not have really continued very long. What I never talked about publicly was that I conducted one interview prior to Madhuri and it never got released. It was just not very good. I never met the playwright I was interviewing, never read any of their plays, and just generally had no idea what I was doing. Hubris had me convinced I could just wing it. I thought "I know how to have a conversation with people. I can sit there for an hour."
The reality is, this can be really hard. I learned that immediately.
But then I regrouped and scheduled a chat with Madhuri, a playwright I already knew, had many conversations with, and experience with her writing. That episode really took off because we had some rapport and she is incredibly charismatic. I remember thinking after recording that episode “Ahh this is what it’s supposed to be like.” You can go back and listen to that episode and you hear what I mean: There’s an energy there and a genuine interest in each other… which is what I am always striving for when I record one of these. You can hear that episode and each of the original 24 from the first two years on YouTube. Search the subtext podcast and you’ll find them.
The Subtext would never exist if Dani Oliver, who was working for LA Stage Alliance at the time, didn’t ask me if I wanted to make it. If this podcast was a boat, she’s the shipbuilder. And she coached me through those first two years and guided me past icebergs each time I was ready to call it quits because of insecurity, jealousy, and general playwriting fatigue. I am still here doing this today thanks to Dani. She deserves the thanks or the blame depending on how you feel about this endeavor.
So here we are at 9 years and I’m looking to the future. Not just because next year will be 10 years, but because there are still so many playwrights out there I want to talk to. I can’t get to everybody but I want to and I will keep trying.
And something I haven’t mentioned before is… I have these long term projects tied to the podcast that I’m really inspired to complete. I’m being vague and I hate it when other people do this. I’m being vague because honestly I don’t have my head wrapped around these projects enough yet to talk about them. I started one of them two years ago and it is reliant on the passage of time. It might be one more year or maybe two before it reaches your ears.
In the meantime I have this great episode with Sam Hunter, and the next several are already scheduled and some are recorded. So The Subtext is well on its way to reaching age 10 and I am still on the hunt for the elusive secret to success as a playwright.
I appreciate all of you who have been with me since the beginning, those of you who came on board at some point, those who pop in from time to time, and you, first time listener. Thank you for giving time to these conversations.
And thank you to Madhuri for being the perfect first guest. And Dani, I can’t believe we went from emailing dumb podcast name ideas in 2015 to 9 years of episodes. Thanks for building and launching this ship I’m continuously sailing… icebergs be damned.
This month Brian speaks with the busy playwright about dramatizing Idaho, promoting the film of ‘The Whale,’ and working on a new play at Steppenwolf.