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No Ordinary People Podcast At the No Ordinary People Podcast, our goal is to foster empathy by increasing proximity.

Join us for a conversation with someone who may be different than you to hear their story honored and learn what they really wish you understood about them.

Hi friends! We have an amazing lineup coming up this year, but new episodes are on hold for a little bit. I’ll keep you ...
01/02/2022

Hi friends! We have an amazing lineup coming up this year, but new episodes are on hold for a little bit. I’ll keep you posted as I know more…

These final two episodes of 2021 are 🔥🔥🔥!Both Zach and Amanda grew up in the south, but they’re now both a long way from...
30/12/2021

These final two episodes of 2021 are 🔥🔥🔥!
Both Zach and Amanda grew up in the south, but they’re now both a long way from home in so many ways! Listen to their stories as they share the journeys they’ve been on as they’ve grown and learned more about the people they’re called to love.

Zach shares about his path growing up, how he came out to his family and how we can be a loving and supportive LGBTQ ally.

From Amanda, we get to hear about how her experiences landed her right in the middle of her calling to support people in the community who are experiencing homelessness. She shares some practical ideas and valuable insights about how we all can better love and serve our neighbors who are homeless.

https://anchor.fm/no-ordinary-people

On this third and final episode of this series, April is joined by Jamie Corbin, Ben Cremer, Kelly Holder, and Elicia Za...
02/12/2021

On this third and final episode of this series, April is joined by Jamie Corbin, Ben Cremer, Kelly Holder, and Elicia Zahm as they finish their discussion about equity versus equality, how people are created equal AND created in God’s image, the dueling theologies of the Constitution and the Bible, how this is anti-CRT rhetoric is impacting students, and what we can do on a practical level.

https://aprilkolman.com/2021/11/30/christianity-culture-and-community-embracing-nuance-and-moving-the-needle-forward-episode-16/

Jamie K. Corbin said it best, so I’ll borrow her words…WHEN THE TRUTH HURTS.It was an honor to serve on a panel with the...
23/11/2021

Jamie K. Corbin said it best, so I’ll borrow her words…

WHEN THE TRUTH HURTS.
It was an honor to serve on a panel with the Ben Cremer, Elicia Zahm, and Kelly Holder on [the] No Ordinary People Podcast. This is the second part of our hours long conversation earlier this fall.

There is so very much work to done and I'm grateful for the other guests to be willing to hop into the mess and bring their best to this super important conversation.

This episode opens with me saying "Nothing enrages me more than this particular topic..." and none of us hold back from that point on. We have to do better as a society and the first step is being able to see the problem where it exists.

This one is a doozy, friends. Brace yourselves!

https://aprilkolman.com/2021/11/23/christianity-culture-and-community-why-the-words-we-use-matter-and-knowing-real-history-is-key-episode-15/

After episode 14, we received quite a bit of feedback, most of it positive, but some of it was critical. The main compla...
02/11/2021

After episode 14, we received quite a bit of feedback, most of it positive, but some of it was critical. The main complaint we got was that we should not have addressed Critical Race Theory without a Black person on the panel.

In this episode, Jamie Corbin and April discuss how they responded to the feedback and ways to move forward in this anti-racism work when it feels like there are so many ways to get it wrong.

This is a pretty raw, behind the scenes look as two friends who are committed to anti-racism work through criticism, discuss how to pause and process, and share ways they strive to maintain curiosity and humility.

https://aprilkolman.com/2021/11/02/the-inefficiency-of-love-maintaining-humility-and-curiosity-as-white-allies-bonus-episode/

I want to explain the reason there was no new episode today. We received a lot of feedback after last week’s episode, mo...
26/10/2021

I want to explain the reason there was no new episode today. We received a lot of feedback after last week’s episode, mostly encouraging, some challenging, and some chastising.

My intent is always to center others, honor experiences, and promote empathy. Before releasing the remaining episodes in the series, I’m taking time to reflect, process, and pray about my role as an ally and how I leverage my privilege. I’m looking forward to bringing y’all into this process soon. This is real work with real impact, and sometimes that impact doesn’t always match intention. Thanks for your understanding and patience, as ever.

Pretty gorgeous spot to do a little bit of podcast editing and maybe a nap in the sun. Grateful for another week of rela...
17/10/2021

Pretty gorgeous spot to do a little bit of podcast editing and maybe a nap in the sun. Grateful for another week of relative warmth before the chill sets in for the long haul.

So glad to be back!! For this episode, I was honored to get to speak with three of the best educators in the business. W...
14/10/2021

So glad to be back!! For this episode, I was honored to get to speak with three of the best educators in the business. We discuss what it’s been like to be in the trenches of education in 2020/21, what they wish people really understood, and how we can all get behind and support our local teachers/schools. Can’t wait for y’all to hear it!

https://aprilkolman.com/2021/10/14/honoring-educators-in-a-pandemic-episode-13/

“Perfect is the enemy of good.”Ever heard that phrase? It could probably be written on my gravestone. 🤦🏼‍♀️ Or in my cas...
11/10/2021

“Perfect is the enemy of good.”

Ever heard that phrase? It could probably be written on my gravestone. 🤦🏼‍♀️ Or in my case, it could even be, “Perfect is the enemy of good enough.” I’ve allowed my desire to do things at a certain standard and my lack of time to achieve those standards paralyze me from moving forward.

I’ve been saying, “I want to do the podcast but I don’t have time to do it very well so I just won’t do it.” When my kids say something like that, I tell them to replace “but” with “and.” I’m finally listening to my own guidance.

“I want to do the podcast AND I don’t have time to do it very well, so… I will prioritize done over perfect.”

The stories of my guests are too important to fumble. The sound quality or editing might not be great, but it will be good, and that’s okay. My goal is to release an episode per week, but sometimes a week will get skipped. And I’m going to have to be okay with that, too. Every other week is better than not at all.

Besides, as the one and only says, “Perfection is shallow, unreal, and fatally uninteresting.” 😉

Well, friends, I thought I was ready to come back. Turns out I thought wrong. I needed a couple more weeks to get to a p...
08/09/2021

Well, friends, I thought I was ready to come back. Turns out I thought wrong. I needed a couple more weeks to get to a place where I was ready to adult and people again.

I’m glad (and a little surprised) that l recognized the need and gave myself permission to take space. The in me is freaking out that I may be letting people down, but the healing/going to therapy/finding and loving my whole self part of me is so freakin proud.

New episodes next week. Probably.

For this episode, I talked with Brad Bigford, a Certified Family Nurse Practitioner who also owns Table Rock Mobile Medi...
24/08/2021

For this episode, I talked with Brad Bigford, a Certified Family Nurse Practitioner who also owns Table Rock Mobile Medicine, a mobile urgent care service in the Treasure Valley here in Idaho.

This is the perfect episode to listen to if you’re wondering about how to help keep kids safe going into the new school year. He also shares some great resources for staying informed about health topics/issues.

I loved hearing about the joke among friends that launched Brad into his career, his heart for people-first health care, what drove him to start a house call practice, and some of the challenges he’s faced along the way.

Brad has taken great care of my own family over the years and I can’t wait for you to hear all he has to say!

https://open.spotify.com/episode/549mKk7ebgnVhraEj47UBh?si=1SujgGygRIWXPZiG9ANmhw&dl_branch=1

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-ordinary-people/id1562876998?i=1000532941373

https://anchor.fm/no-ordinary-people/episodes/Brad-Bigford-e16c8ob

“Owning our story can be hard but not nearly as difficult as spending our lives running from it. Embracing our vulnerabi...
20/08/2021

“Owning our story can be hard but not nearly as difficult as spending our lives running from it. Embracing our vulnerabilities is risky but not nearly as dangerous as giving up on love and belonging and joy—the experiences that make us the most vulnerable. Only when we are brave enough to explore the darkness will we discover the infinite power of our light.”
-Brené Brown

I’m so excited to have my beautiful friend Kate King on this first episode back after the break. We discuss how Kate’s f...
18/08/2021

I’m so excited to have my beautiful friend Kate King on this first episode back after the break. We discuss how Kate’s faith has changed over the course of her life and how she has wrestled with making sense of it all, something so many of us can relate to.

25/06/2021

On an upcoming series, the podcast will be featuring the stories of police officers.

What questions would you like to hear answered regarding law enforcement?

16/06/2021

Juneteenth Discussion Panel

Katya Baxter is originally from St. Petersburg, Russia. When she was 16, she hopped on the plane, by herself, and flew o...
11/06/2021

Katya Baxter is originally from St. Petersburg, Russia. When she was 16, she hopped on the plane, by herself, and flew over to Boise, Idaho to visit a friend. But instead of a two-week long trip, God had something else in store for her. She ended up staying in Boise and going to college, then moving to Toronto and finding her own faith, and then to San Francisco where instead of leaving her heart she found her soulmate.

Today, 20 years later, she and her family are back in Boise. Katya's most recent adventure involves putting on a teacher's hat and becoming a self-taught, pandemic-induced homeschooling mom for her biracial daughter. When she is not teaching, she practices nutrition and helps turn picky eaters into kids who love to eat all kinds of food and stay healthy.

On this episode, we discuss Katya's childhood in Russia, her experience as an immigrant to the US, mental health, finding faith, her battle with an eating disorder, and what she's learned about race since marrying a Black man and raising a biracial daughter. It is a full episode with so many important topics.

CONTENT WARNING: Eating disorders

https://aprilkolman.com/2021/06/10/katya-baxter-episode-8/

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2UBFiXroTVolISk1yifHx1?si=YgwPaF9lRb672UpPTMtMCA&dl_branch=1

I am so excited to share that on June 15th, rather than a regular podcast episode, we’ll have a live discussion panel sh...
03/06/2021

I am so excited to share that on June 15th, rather than a regular podcast episode, we’ll have a live discussion panel sharing with us about Juneteenth! We could use your help...

What questions do you have about Juneteenth?
and/or
What questions do you think should be addressed?

Thank you!!

Caleb Stanton is a caffeine-dependent husband and father of two young children. Even though he loves his job, he'd rathe...
01/06/2021

Caleb Stanton is a caffeine-dependent husband and father of two young children. Even though he loves his job, he'd rather spend his days at the beach, strumming a guitar and pondering the human experience. When he's not looking for his keys, you might find Caleb writing a story he'll never post or composing a song he'll never perform. Most of all, Caleb loves his family, a dram of cheap Scotch, and thinking about the things that give life meaning.

On this episode, we talk about navigating nuance and difficult conversations with loved ones. Caleb shares about his mental health journey and he offers a great explanation of ADHD. He shares about how he and his wife are trying to give their kids skills to care for their mental health, especially how to process the big emotions that kids have, and that we still have as adults too. In fact, we have a musical recording for the first time on the podcast, an original song written by Caleb and his son about Big Feelings.

https://aprilkolman.com/2021/06/01/caleb-stanton-episode-7/

https://open.spotify.com/episode/17fmudY1mCB4nURQ18qR1C?si=CrQCtN02QHGieSveYCfHSg

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-ordinary-people/id1562876998 =5c45b97d-e076-42d0-97ae-c042246cbc54

I remember wondering when I was preparing to launch this podcast if anyone would even listen. Either way, I was committe...
30/05/2021

I remember wondering when I was preparing to launch this podcast if anyone would even listen. Either way, I was committed to showing up and holding space for these precious stories, but still I wondered...

Well, y’all have definitely been listening! Last week, the show passed 500 downloads across four countries and I’m blown away. Thank you for trusting me with your time and graciously hearing the stories of strangers. It’s an honor, and we’ve got more planned for you as we grow together in empathy and grace.

On today’s episode, I talk with my friend Bekah Bowman, author of Can’t Steal My Joy. We chat about her beautiful journe...
25/05/2021

On today’s episode, I talk with my friend Bekah Bowman, author of Can’t Steal My Joy. We chat about her beautiful journey parenting her kids with terminal illness, how grief and hope coexist in her life, and how we all can work to make our communities more inclusive for people of all abilities. It’s a must listen for everyone, but especially for friends who have experienced grief and those who lead communities. Thanks for listening! 💛

https://aprilkolman.com/2021/05/25/bekah-bowman-episode-6/

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-ordinary-people/id1562876998?i=1000523003741

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Z8dLjT8mJBBPalXCg079K?si=2IT3i_P7RpqKHtBeNS5GfA

What a gift this podcast has been in just 5 episodes. The stories that my beautiful guests shared have been powerful in ...
25/05/2021

What a gift this podcast has been in just 5 episodes. The stories that my beautiful guests shared have been powerful in building up the parts of our souls that are worn down and worn out. I can’t thank them enough. More goodness to come. 💛

My guest on the show this week is Jamie Corbin, an educator and storyteller who has been navigating her own complex raci...
18/05/2021

My guest on the show this week is Jamie Corbin, an educator and storyteller who has been navigating her own complex racial identity her whole life. We talk about her own transracial adoption and its impact, her experiences as a white-passing person of color, the raising of her three Afro-Latina daughters, and her passion for helping others grow as allies. This is a can’t miss episode!

https://aprilkolman.com/2021/05/18/jamie-corbin-episode-5/

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-ordinary-people/id1562876998 =b934890c-9de2-4019-a90f-b1ce75631d32

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0HH2yTD7IQQvgPkyKZGCsa?si=kXO6rqlTRdKi8ILUYO8Tyw

“Nothingis more importantthan empathy for another.Not a career.Not wealth.Not intelligence.Certainly not status.We have ...
16/05/2021

“Nothing
is more important
than empathy for another.

Not a career.
Not wealth.
Not intelligence.
Certainly not status.

We have to feel
for one another
if we’re going to survive
with dignity.”

Audrey Hepburn

This episode is especially close to my heart since the story is my own. I share how I’ve journeyed from a staunch Republ...
11/05/2021

This episode is especially close to my heart since the story is my own. I share how I’ve journeyed from a staunch Republican voter with “conservative Christian values” to a writer of social justice and racial reconciliation, all while pursuing truer things and deeper faith.

Thank you for holding my story gently and granting me space to share it openly. 💛

http://aprilkolman.com/2021/05/10/april-kolman-episode-4/

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-ordinary-people/id1562876998?i=1000521286413

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4rVbOEMo3g8aobzD7wEH74?si=dwt39rLoTheGiYVrMEaEUA&dl_branch=1

“Be an opener of doors.” 🔑 —Ralph Waldo Emerson
08/05/2021

“Be an opener of doors.” 🔑
—Ralph Waldo Emerson

For this episode, I was honored to have a conversation with Charity Lewis. Charity is an amazing storyteller, and she re...
04/05/2021

For this episode, I was honored to have a conversation with Charity Lewis. Charity is an amazing storyteller, and she really took me to church on this episode! She talks about the history of Black faith, slavery, religion, and how the God of the Bible is present in her experience and the experiences of African Americans today. We talk about her newfound love of holy feast days and what is needed for racial reconciliation.

This is an important show, and I’m so grateful to Charity for opening up her heart and sharing her story. Can’t wait for y’all to hear it!! 💛

https://aprilkolman.com/2021/05/03/charity-lewis-episode-3/

https://anchor.fm/no-ordinary-people

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7DAeF8xzQLzRIlNRwPIbHk?si=9p2NYmSfSwm-Mnxz5Lt-Fg&dl_branch=1

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-ordinary-people/id1562876998?i=1000520008379

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