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ReFramed Podcast ReFramed is a podcast and vodcast series that explores the representation of people with disability
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19/12/2023

And that's a wrap on season 2 of Reframed! 🎉

We would like to extend a huge thank you to all of our guests this season - it wouldn't have been possible without you 💕

Check out all of season 2 at the link below!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

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17/12/2023

"A non-disabled person person is never really gonna be able to portray disability and the feelings that are involved in that and the emotions correctly"

'Everybody Hate Johan' lost points on our Inclusive Disability Representation scale for hiring a non-disabled actor to play the character of Solvor.

This week's episode with Sam Drummond, Robyn Lambird and Jason Clymo is now live.

You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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14/12/2023

"The only kind of main form of ableism that I noticed in the film was her own internalised ableism"

This week's episode with Sam Drummond, Robyn Lambird and Jason Clymo struck up brilliant conversations about the realities of representing ableism and internalised ableism on screen.

You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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13/12/2023

"She thinks there's some sort of deficit and she's protecting herself from that deficit"

Throughout 'Everybody Hates Johan', the portrayal of disability (through the character Solvor) is complex.

Often, Solvor defies common misnomers and negative perceptions of disability - including the power dynamics in the relationship with the main character, Johan.

In contrast with this, Solvor often "hides" elements of her disabilities - reinforcing the harmful perception that disability is undesirable.

Check out this week's episode with Sam Drummond, Robyn Lambird and Jason Clymo, to learn more!

You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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04/12/2023

This week's ReFramed episode reviews the film, 'Everybody Hates Johan'. The film includes disability representation, without being "a film about disability".

There's a lot to love about the representation throughout the film, and a lot that could be improved.

Check out this week's episode with Sam Drummond, Robyn Lambird and Jason Clymo, to learn more!

You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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03/12/2023

"This is the time to open their worlds up to diversity"

Check out this week's episode of ReFramed to hear more about the impact that media representation has on the lives of people with disability.

Click the link below to watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

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01/12/2023

The way mainstream media portrays people with disability is improving over time, but still has a long way to go.

Check out this week's episode of ReFramed to hear more about the impact that media representation has on the lives of people with disability.

Click the link below to watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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30/11/2023

Please help us welcome Sam Drummond to ReFramed, for our final episode of Season 2!

Sam is a Discrimination Lawyer who lives in Naarm (Melbourne), is a self-confessed tea connoisseur, and loves gardening. Throughout his life, he's also been a radio producer, political adviser and lawyer.

Sam is also an ambassador for IncludeAbility, "an initiative of the Australian Human Rights Commission (the Commission) developed to increase meaningful employment opportunities for people with disability, and to close the gap in workforce participation between people with disability and people without disability."

Throughout COVID lockdowns, Sam became a fan of Nordic and Korean cinema. For this episode of ReFramed, Sam chose to review 'Everybody Hates Johan' - "a comedy about Johan Grande's adventurous life, and his long-lasting battle to win over the love of his life, Solvor, who he accidentally blew up a bit in his teens."The film includes disability representation, through the character Solvor.

Follow along with our final episode of Season 2, to find out more and get our take on the film.

Check out this week’s ReFramed episode at the link below. You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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WE WON AN ANTENNA AWARD! 🎉 Last weekend we were honoured to win an Antenna award for "Outstanding Contribution to a Comm...
05/11/2023

WE WON AN ANTENNA AWARD! 🎉

Last weekend we were honoured to win an Antenna award for "Outstanding Contribution to a Community by a Program" 🏆

The Antenna Awards is a celebration of the best of community TV, and is a beacon of creativity and inclusivity in Australian media.

We are so honoured to win this award and the recognition from community media legends is incredible.

A huge thank you to everyone at Attitude Foundation Limited for all of their support, Community Broadcasting Foundation for funding the series, all of our guests & everyone who has watched or listened along. A special thank you to our hosts Jason, Steph & Robyn ❤️

You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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20/09/2023

"The media is a crucial way in which we come to know, understand, and participate in the world around us"

Want to catch more wisdom like this from Emily Dash? Then you better check out this week’s ReFramed episode at the link below.

You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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19/09/2023

"We will be really terrible people sometimes, and we'll be selfish sometimes..."

If you feel uncomfortable about admitting that you don't like a disabled person or calling us out when we're being terrible - then there's a fair chance you're viewing us through a lense of pity.

Some of our favourite examples of representation on screen involve disabled characters that are sometimes unlikeable, make bad choices, and are portrayed as complex and real human beings.

Check out this week’s ReFramed episode at the link below. You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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Emily Dash - Artist and Advocate

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18/09/2023

People with disability don't all agree on everything, or have the same experiences. Our views, beliefs and experiences are diverse - and that should be reflected on screen to prevent the perception of 'all disabled people are the same'.

This is something we believe 'Switched At Birth' did quite well.

Do you agree? 🤔

Check out this week’s ReFramed episode at the link below. You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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Emily Dash - Artist and Advocate

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12/09/2023

Please help us welcome the incredible Emily Dash to ReFramed!

If you don't already know Emily, she's an incredible writer, actor, producer, educator and speaker. She's also a disability advocate with an emphasis on social inclusion. Emily recently joined the Attitude Foundation Board of Directors, and we're so excited to have her on the podcast.

Joined by Robyn Lambird & Jason Clymo, the trio review 'Switched At Birth'. The series ran from 2011 - 2017 on ABC Family, and revolves around two teenagers who were switched at birth and grew up in very different environments: one in an affluent suburb, and the other in a working-class neighbourhood.

One of the main characters, Daphne, is Deaf - and 'Switched At Birth' has been both praised and critiqued for its portrayal of disability. According to ABC Family, it is "the first mainstream television series to have multiple deaf and hard-of-hearing series regulars and scenes shot entirely in American Sign Language (ASL)"

Tune in to find out more and get our take on 'Switched At Birth'.

Check out this week’s ReFramed episode at the link below. You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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07/09/2023

When lived experience is prioritised throughout the creation of films and tv shows, it creates better representation and a greater story.

Heartbreak High practiced inclusive casting, by hiring Chloe Hayden to portray Quinni. Like her character, Chloe is autistic - and it’s clear this genuine representation has played well on screen.

In interviews about the show, Chloe has mentioned the creator and writers being “incredibly collaborative” to ensure the representation is accurate. The show also had an autism consultant on board, demonstrating their dedication to creating a character that genuinely portrays the experiences of autistic people. 👏🏼

Have you watched Heartbreak High? What did you think of the disability representation?

If you haven’t already, check out this week’s ReFramed episode at the link below. You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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05/09/2023

Not everything is about disability!

One of the more nuanced forms of ableism that Heartbreak High represents well, is the assumption that disability makes up the entirety of a person. It’s incredibly reductive and frustrating to assume that everything about a person (their job, their challenges, their successes, or even their reactions) must somehow be related to disability.

It’s important we distinguish though, you should still acknowledge disability. It doesn’t benefit anyone to completely disregard someone’s experiences.

However, disability is often just one aspect of a person’s identity. We all have aspirations, interests and challenges that may be completely unrelated.

To summarise - acknowledge people’s experiences of disability, but don’t assume that everything about them is always related to disability.

Keen to see/hear more conversations like this? Tune into this weeks episode of ReFramed with Anja Christoffersen, Robyn Lambird & Jason Clymo.

This episode is now live! 🎉 Check it out at the link below. You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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03/09/2023

Heartbreak High has been highly praised for its inclusive and accurate representation - including casting Chloe Hayden as Quinni, an autistic q***r young woman.

It’s no surprise that the show represents the experiences of autistic people so well, given that Chloe Hayden shares the same lived experience.

There are moments of pure disabled joy, great support and friendship, as well as moments that leave you feeling uncomfortable. (Sasha really got it wrong sometimes).

This type of accurate representation allows us all to reflect on how people with disability are treated throughout society. It acknowledges how we’re failing people with disability, and provides an opportunity to do better.

This weeks episode is now live!! 🎉 Check it out at the link below. You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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30/08/2023

In an inaccessible world, people with disability are constantly adjusting and working around barriers. We’re masters of adaptation.

But the real question we should be asking ourselves, our politicians/leaders, and the wider community is - ‘why are we always forced to adapt?’

When over 15% of the world’s population experience disability (this figure could be considered to be much higher), why do our communities continue to fail to cater for our needs? Especially when you consider that accessibility and/or universal design actually benefits everyone.

Keen to hear more on this topic? Tune into this week’s episode of ReFramed!

This weeks episode is now live! Check it out at the link below. You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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28/08/2023

A lot of ableism and stigma around disability comes from a lack of understanding and ignorance.

Better inclusive representation of disability on screen - including hiring writers, directors and producers with lived experience - will help to break down misconceptions and ableism.

It’s why we love analysing films and tv shows that represent disability, and why this series is so important.

This weeks episode invites Anja Christoffersen as our guest, to help analyse ‘Heartbreak High’ (the 2022 reboot). The episode will go live on tomorrow at 7pm AET.

While you wait, check out our previous episodes at the link below. You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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27/08/2023

Please help us welcome Anja Christoffersen, as this week’s guest! 👏🏼

Anja is a disability advocate and social entrepreneur. Her business - ‘Champion Health Agency’ - is a world first talent agency professionalising the lived experiences of people with disability, chronic illness and carers, in order to create meaningful change.

Anja joins Robyn and Jason, to analyse ‘Heartbreak High’ which stars the incredible Chloé Hayden as Quinni.

This weeks episode will go live on Tuesday at 7pm AET. While you wait, check out our previous episodes at the link below. You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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24/08/2023

“You’re being gaslit by the entire planet to think that you don’t belong here…” 💥

We want to say a giant thank you to Annie Segarra for joining us on this week’s episode of ReFramed.

Annie has been SO generous with discussing her lived experiences, her sense of community, and (of course) her thoughts on ‘Dead End: Paranormal Park’.

If you haven’t already, you can watch captioned episodes of this episode on YouTube or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

Check it out at the link below
https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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23/08/2023

“The authenticity behind the scenes brings so much more to the character”.

Fun little tidbit from this week’s episode, is that Hamish Steele - the creator of ‘Dead End: Paranormal Park’ - received an Autism diagnosis throughout production of the series. Hamish had already written the character ‘Norma’ based on many of their own lived experiences.

This is a beautiful example of why we need more writers and creatives with disability hired throughout production of films and shows. 🥹🥰

Our new episode with Annie Segarra is now live - you can watch captioned episodes on YouTube or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

Check it out at the link below
https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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21/08/2023

“It is about representation for the people who can resonate with these characters and these stories, but also such a teaching tool that will soften any kind of hatred that ignorance can bring about”. - Annie Segarra, on why accurate disability representation in media is important.

Couldn’t have said it better ourselves. 👏🏼

Our new episode with Annie Segarra is now live - you can watch captioned episodes on YouTube or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

Check it out at the link below
https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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20/08/2023

“Talking is hard…”

As we discuss the neurodiverse representation throughout ‘Dead End: Paranormal Park’, Annie also shares some of her tips on navigating communication - including scripts.

We’re so grateful for Annie’s openness to share on her experiences, and hope someone picks up a trick or two! 🥰

Our new episode with Annie Segerra is now live - you can watch captioned episodes on YouTube or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

Check it out at the link below
https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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17/08/2023

“You can’t be the first one…”

Whilst navigating an inaccessible and exclusive world, it’s easy to feel like you’re the “only one”.

The only one trying to access university. The only one working in your industry. The only one going to that concert. The only one on that dating app.

What’s important to remember is that approximately 1 in 6 people experience disability. You’re not the only one, and you aren’t alone.

This is exactly why disability representation in mainstream media is so important. We need films and shows that accurately portray disabled characters with jobs, in relationships, at university, and so on - to help society realise that we exist in every community, and deserve access and inclusion in every space.

Our new episode with Annie Segarra is live on YouTube and all your favourite podcast platforms.

Check it out at the link below
https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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Community Broadcasting Foundation

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15/08/2023

When people with disability aren’t represented in media, it creates a sense of isolation amongst our community.

It’s not just a matter of feeling excluded on screen though - the lack of accurate representation feeds societal exclusion and discrimination as well. Meaning people with disability are isolated in the “real world”.

Better accurate representation is part of the solution, for creating greater inclusion.

Our new episode of ReFramed is now live - you can watch captioned episodes on YouTube or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

Check it out at the link below
https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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Community Broadcasting Foundation

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14/08/2023

Please help us welcome Annie Segarra to ReFramed! 🎉

Annie (she/they) is an incredible digital creator, speaker, writer and advocate - and we are SO excited to have them join us.

Along with Jason & Steph, Annie helps us review 'Dead End: Paranormal Park' - a scarily hilarious American animated series. The series features an autistic main character, and we have many thoughts to share. Tune in to get the goss!

PS: if you're not already following Annie, then you're missing out on a brilliant part of the internet! Go give them a follow.

This next episode will go live tomorrow, Tuesday at 7pm AET. While you wait, check out our previous episodes at the link below. You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube, or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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10/08/2023

We'd like to say a HUGE thank you to Luke Christian for joining us on our most recent episode of ReFramed.

Luke has been incredibly generous with sharing his experiences and perspectives - from online dating, to helping us review the 2022 reboot of Q***r as Folk.

If you're looking for the most amazing clothing and accessories - we'd recommend you check out Luke's business Deaf Identity. There's even Barbie themed clothing in stock right now! 💗

https://www.deafidentity.com/

Before we introduce our next guest, make sure to check out Luke's episode. You can watch captioned episodes on YouTube or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

Check it out at the link below
https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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Deaf Identity
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09/08/2023

I think we can all agree that dating apps are a strange place... 😱

Of course, it's not all bad out there. But there's something about dating platforms, that allow people to bring out their worst biases. For people with disability (especially q***r people), it can often be a place where discrimination and fetishising is amplified.

As Luke says, if you're not a 10 out 10 ken doll with a six pack - or have any sort of 'difference' that strays from the harmful unrealistic idea of 'perfection' - you're probably going to be blocked or face some sort of discrimination.

What do you think about online dating? Is it too savage? Do q***r dating apps bring out the worst in our community?

Our new episode with Luke Christian is now live - you can watch captioned episodes on YouTube or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

Check it out at the link below
https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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Deaf Identity
Community Broadcasting Foundation

Video Description: The screen is split into a 3 way video conference with Steph, a woman with shoulder length brown hair on the top screen, & Jason, a man with short brown hair and a beard on the bottom screen. Luke a man with long blonde hair is on the middle screen. Luke talks to the camera. The Reframed logo plays at the end and then fades to black.

07/08/2023

"Anytime we see any disabled or Deaf characters being full s*xualised human beings, that's a win because we do not see that regularly in mainstream media - which is a shame"

We've said it 100 times, and we'll say it 100 times more - disabled people have s*x.

Another thing we loved about the Q***r as Folk reboot was finally seeing the s*xy representation disabled people deserve! I mean, there's a whole episode centred around an accessible o**y. 😉

Our new episode with Luke Christian is now live - you can watch captioned episodes on YouTube or listen to it on your favourite podcast platforms!

Check it out at the link below
https://linktr.ee/reframedpodcast

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Deaf Identity
Community Broadcasting Foundation

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